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  • Data breach

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  • Should I allow my book to be used to train AI?

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    AxtremusA
    Thinking about this more generally ... "Training AI and LLMs" is the machine version of getting an entity to learn something. The flesh-and-blood analog is "getting a person (student) to learn something." If a human-person reads your book, presumably you get a bit of royalty (roughly that of selling one copy of your book). The human-person then goes on to do whatever with whatever he learnt from reading your book -- short of that human-person making additional copies of your book or quoting substantial content from your book (to the point of violating copyrights), you derive no "residual" income from that human-person who has read your book. So maybe the AI developer is thinking/arguing "ok, I buy one copy of [your] book from the publisher to train my LLM", akin to "*I buy a copy of [your] book from the publisher/author to train my human-employee." You get no further share of whatever economic value generated by the LLM just like you get no further share of whatever share of whatever value generated by the human-employee. Of course an LLM is not the same as a human-employee -- the LLM can be duplicated into a billion exact copies, will never quit its job, has perfect memory, and will effectively live forever. I.e., the long-term potential economic that can be generated by the LLM may be "infinite" compared to a human-employee. Will that argument work? Is the arrangement "fair"? I suppose that's the billion dollar question to be shaken out in the years to come.
  • Who Needs Elections?

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    ShiroKuroS
    BTW re that tweet "all we need is our Constitution" ... [image: 1723939061490-3697fad5-18d8-4f05-ba62-89a2a0075f6a-inigomontoyameme.jpg]
  • Sculpting a cello

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  • Le Creuset sale

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  • Rockhouse

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    Spectacular!
  • Harris/Walz policy proposals

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    wtgW
    Brooks and Bennett on the proposals. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/brooks-and-capehart-on-harris-economic-policy-proposals
  • Grok 2.0

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  • Everybody stop what you’re doing right now…

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    ShiroKuroS
    Ahhh. I guess you're off the hook then.
  • Texas busing of migrants

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    RontunerR
    I know Chicago was trying to come up with plans should there be a surprise influx during the Democratic convention next week...
  • Head of Project 2025 resigns

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    wtgW
    Inside Project 2025 https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/inside-project-2025s-plan-to-reprogram-the-government/?ref=readtangle.com
  • Gerald Baker WSJ op-ed

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    wtgW
    I can get to it from my iPad via Brave. Or my Windows PC. If you click on Continue Reading, it just expands the article. It doesn't ask you to load an app
  • The Nostradamus of pollsters

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    I see two more things happening. Arizona has an abortion rights measure on the ballot this year and when that happened in Ohio voters turned out that hadn’t voted in years - if ever. While they’re there these same voters may well decide to vote for Harris/Walz and maybe mark D all the way down the ticket. Ohio has an anti gerrymandering measure this year and it seems to be very popular. Maybe the same thing will happen.
  • So what are the odds we'll avoid a recession?

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    wtgW
    @CHAS said in So what are the odds we'll avoid a recession?: "Surprise jump in retail sales casts aside recession fears Retail sales rose 1 percent in July, reversing a June slowdown and marking the largest jump in more than two years." https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/08/15/retail-sales-consumer-spending-walmart/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F3eb8082%2F66be2803b75d8304b4ea9f7f%2F597299149bbc0f1cdce763b8%2F19%2F52%2F66be2803b75d8304b4ea9f7f The no-paywall version: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/surprise-jump-in-retail-sales-casts-aside-recession-fears/ar-AA1oRi93 Now I'll go read it....
  • About those Terms of Service

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    Big_AlB
    This sounds like possible overreach on behalf of both the plaintiff and Disney. I'm uncertain how a failure by what I suppose is a tenant restaurant becomes the responsibility of the leasing party, in this case, Disney. It seems like the common strategy in liability cases to sue everyone in sight. On the other hand, the proposed defense and resort to what would seem to be an unrelated arbitration clause in a seemingly unrelated transaction would be only further temptation to impose arbitration for almost all transactions with a party for any reason forever after. The pernicious creep of arbitration already threatens the rights of individuals to pursue legal action in many, perhaps most, dealings with corporations imposing terms of service. Big Al
  • Titanic artifacts

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  • Trump campaign internal communications hacked

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    wtgW
    Politico, WaPo, and the NYT have not published the hacked material. https://apnews.com/article/trump-vance-leak-media-wikileaks-e30bdccbdd4abc9506735408cdc9bf7b
  • Vice President

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    AxtremusA
    A masterful summary of “the last three weeks” and “weird”: Link to video
  • The man who tried to redeem the world with logic

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  • The Swiss Army knife of words

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    wtgW
    Here are the posts with the instructions: https://wtf.coffee-room.com/topic/180/possible-issue-with-edit-screen?_=1723587587075 More discussion: https://well-temperedforum.groupee.net/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9130004433/m/3473961997?r=3473961997#3473961997