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    Great!
  • Kim Philby, on the record

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  • McConnell

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    So another photo came out today. Real or fake? Who knows. If he's alive he may well be incapacitated, unable to ever fulfilling his job duties. Again, I don't expect the truth to come out until later next week at the soonest. It's all been much too secretive.
  • The Finnish sand battery

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    Salt Batterieslink text
  • Laughter is the best medicine

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  • Bloomscrolling--what's in bloom where you are?

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    @AndyD Beautiful!
  • Mildly Interesting - People

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    The 2026 Fields Medal Link to video
  • Spent oyster shells

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    In New York harbor it’s about more than shells. Oyster farming has come back in a big way. . It’s partly a method of having oysters clean the water, but oysters were a significant food source here decades ago.
  • Best friends discover they are related

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    No real harm done as long as no genetically compromised offspring is conceived.
  • 100 days to midterms

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  • A bit of a drive

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    Very glad to hear that you dodged that bullet. Did you do anything fun or pleasurable while you were in Philadelphia? Big Al
  • Scandinavia, The Baltics, and Iceland - traveller insight?

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    @CHAS said: Hope you have a great time and that you post pictures on your return. We were going there until Bob has some trouble. I’m sorry to hear that. I hope at some point you can revisit that plan. And you remind me I need to write up an Italy post with photos. I’ll try to get that done this week!
  • It's so hot in Japan, they invented a new name for it

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    @wtg They are being too nice. I use other words.
  • Think twice before booking a European river cruise

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    I haven’t done an ocean cruise but we LOVE river! I really want to hear your impressions of AMA when you return as well. The good thing about the Rhône is that it is generally high rather than low so the current issues shouldn’t affect you!
  • Ax’s lame movie recos and cool YouTube picks

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  • Probably bots and spammers

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    @Jodi said: Klaus has done some housekeeping on the other forum because of that. Yea, they've had hundreds and hundreds of bogus accounts for years. When this was just the backup site the registration didn't require admin approval and we had a zillion spam accounts, too. I deleted them when we moved over here as the permanent WTF, and @axtremus changed registration to require approval. The only hiccup that I'm aware of is that I rejected @marchant twice, not realizing that it was Ballyhoo with a new name.
  • Bit of excitement in the neighborhood

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    @wtg wow!! That’s a lot of drama, and a lot of noise, to then still be able to have that morning coffee. I’m not confident we would have the same positive experience here!
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    A lead roof? I’ve never heard of one. Class A roof specs sometimes call for lead flashings but a whole roof? Wow. Should last forever!
  • Economics of AI

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    I have read about tokens before, and one of the problems is that the definition of a token is pretty fluid (as far as I can tell) and not only is it inconsistent across platforms, it’s inconsistent within the same platform. So it’s not like character count or word count, where the user could monitor their token use with 100% accuracy. From @axtremus ’s article: Tokens represent a unit of output, either in text or image, from an LLM. For the Ask Sage tool, a single token equates to about 3.7 characters, according to documents viewed by WIRED From OpenAI (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/4936856-what-are-tokens-and-how-to-count-them) Spaces, punctuation, and partial words all contribute to token counts. This is how the API internally segments your text before generating a response. One thing that makes it particularly hard to monitor token usage is that the same amount of text could be interpreted as different amounts of tokens, depending on how it’s entered. At least, that’s according to what I’ve read, and the OpenAi article recommends to “break large text into smaller chunks” if you exceed your token limit. So what does a “chunk” mean? Does that mean that the same prompt content would be interpreted as fewer tokens if you entered it little by little, rather than all at once? It would seem so, but that doesn’t make sense to me.