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  • The Putinization of US foreign policy

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    Interesting theory taken from FB: Something about Venezuela is not sitting right with me. This is a long one. And take this all with a grain of salt, because who the hell am I? I could be overthinking this whole thing. Here’s what can be backed up by reporting: 14 days before the U.S. captured Nicolás Maduro, Russia evacuated the families of its diplomats from Venezuela. December 20th. Wives and kids. Quiet, organized, done. Then on January 3rd, Delta Force drops in, grabs Maduro and his wife, and it’s over in under thirty minutes. That doesn’t seem like a coincidence. Russia publicly condemned the whole thing - called it armed aggression, demanded a UN Security Council meeting, the whole performative outrage routine. But you don’t evacuate your people two weeks in advance unless you know something’s coming. And if you know something’s coming, someone told you. Here’s where it gets weirder. Cuba - Venezuela’s other major ally - didn’t evacuate anybody. Cuban doctors are still there, confined to their quarters, families back in Havana losing their minds because nobody warned them this was happening. China? Same thing. No evacuation, just reactive condemnation after the fact. So Russia knew. Cuba and China didn’t. Or at least they didn’t foresee any consequences from a US intervention - because sure;y they knew that Russians were leaving. Now let’s talk about how the operation actually went down. Venezuela spent two billion dollars on Russian S-300 air defense systems - the kind that are supposed to turn the Caribbean into a no-fly zone for the U.S. military. On paper, these things track 24 targets simultaneously, knock cruise missiles out of the sky at 250 kilometers. Caracas should have been a fortress. The U.S. neutralized all of it in under twenty minutes. Either American military tech is so vastly superior that we can casually dismantle a Russian-backed air defense network before anyone even knows we’re there, or those systems were ordered not to fire. Maybe both. But the speed of it - the totality of it - that’s what doesn’t add up. And if we can do this - why is the Ukrainian war with Russia still happening? Anyway - one helicopter took minor damage. That’s it. No U.S. casualties. No significant Venezuelan casualties that anyone’s bothered to specify. Vice President Delcy Rodríguez went on TV and said “innocent people died” but never gave numbers, never gave details, and hasn’t brought it up again. For a surprise military raid on a hostile capital city, that’s remarkably clean. And then there’s Maduro himself. He and his wife both surrendered. Not fought to the death, not tried to escape, not holed up for a siege. Surrendered. The FBI Hostage Rescue Team was part of the extraction force - not just Delta, but FBI HRT, the guys who specialize in cooperative extractions. You bring HRT when you’re expecting the target to come willingly. The whole transport route screams pre-arrangement. Maduro goes from his compound to the USS Iwo Jima, then Guantanamo, then a nice clean flight to New York where a 25-page indictment is ready to unseal the same day he lands. That indictment was prepared. The grand jury had already done its work. Jay Clayton’s signature was on it before Maduro ever got on that helicopter. They knew exactly when he’d be in custody. Here’s what I think happened - and again, I’m speculating here, but the pieces fit. Maduro was cornered. His economy collapsed. He lost the 2024 election and the international community recognized his opponent. His former intelligence chief, Hugo Carvajal, pled guilty back in June and started cooperating. That guy would have known everything - security details, schedules, which officers were loyal, which ones would fold. Maduro’s wife was indicted. His son was indicted. He was facing life in prison if the U.S. ever got him. I actually watched a video of a recent interview that Maduro did where he said that he was ready to work with the US - he was just waiting for them to call. So what if he made a deal? What if Maduro, through back channels, offered to surrender in exchange for a reduced sentence? Maybe witness protection, maybe unfrozen assets, maybe immunity for his kid. The U.S. gets him in custody, gets control of Venezuelan oil, gets a clean regime change without a prolonged war. Russia gets advance warning, pulls their people out, avoids an international incident. And everybody gets to maintain their public positions for domestic audiences. Maduro looks like a victim - kidnapped by imperial aggression, not a guy who cut a deal to save his own ass. The U.S. looks strong - tough on dictators, military dominance, America first. Russia looks outraged - standing up to American hegemony. And Venezuela’s power structure stays mostly intact because Trump’s not working with the democratic opposition, he’s working with Maduro’s own vice president. That last part is what really cinches it for me. María Corina Machado won the Nobel Peace Prize. She won the opposition primary. Her guy, Edmundo González, won the actual presidential election by a two-to-one margin and got international recognition as Venezuela’s legitimate leader. Seventy percent of Venezuelans support the opposition. Trump dismissed her. Called her a nice woman who doesn’t have support or respect in the country. Then said the U.S. would work with Delcy Rodríguez - Maduro’s second-in-command, who is also under U.S. sanctions, who was appointed acting president by Venezuela’s Supreme Court literally while Maduro was being transported to New York. Why would you capture a dictator on narco-terrorism charges and then immediately partner with his deputy who’s part of the same regime? Unless she was part of the arrangement. Look, I get it. This sounds like conspiracy theory territory. Maybe the U.S. military is just that good. Maybe we walked into Caracas, deleted their air defenses, grabbed their president, and walked out without breaking a sweat purely through overwhelming technological superiority and brilliant tactical execution. Maybe Russia’s evacuation two weeks prior was just really good intelligence gathering and risk management. Maybe all the weird coincidences - the immediate indictment, the cooperative surrender, the FBI involvement, the decision to work with the existing regime - maybe that’s all just efficient planning. But 14 days? Russia evacuated 14 days before the operation. That’s not a coincidence. That’s not good intelligence. That’s advance notice. And if Russia knew, someone told them. And if someone told them, this wasn’t a surprise raid. The real question is what everybody got out of the deal. Maduro probably gets a reduced sentence if he cooperates, maybe stays alive instead of getting killed by his own people or spending the rest of his life in supermax. The U.S. gets Venezuelan oil back online - Trump literally said American companies will “spend billions of dollars” fixing the infrastructure and “start making money for the country.” Russia cuts its losses on a failed investment in Venezuela, maybe gets some Ukraine concessions we don’t know about yet. And Venezuela’s regime structure stays in place with a new face at the top who’s already signaled she’ll play ball. Everyone wins. Except the Venezuelan people, obviously. And the pro-democracy movement that actually won the election. But when has that ever mattered when oil and geopolitics are on the table? We’ll know more Monday when Maduro shows up for his arraignment. If he pleads guilty immediately, if he takes a cooperation deal, if this whole thing resolves quickly and quietly - that’s your confirmation. You don’t get that kind of efficiency in the U.S. criminal justice system unless the defendant’s already made a deal before he walked in the door. Like I said. Maybe I’m overthinking it. But if you’re not convinced - think about this - how massively bad would it have been for Trump if even one person died on this mission? If they had made a single mistake? That’s a fucking crazy chance to take if you don’t already have the odds stacked in your favor.
  • Welder's anthrax

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    Odd and mysterious indeed.
  • Marinara sauce taste test

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    We buy Rao’s now and then, but because it’s so easy to make a garlic-and-oil sauce with parsley, and grate some Parmesan, I do that 95% of the time. Fresh is always best. In the warmer months, when we can get real tomatoes, I’ll make a marinara from scratch. Somehow the jarred sauces seem meh. Some of the Italian specialty stores in NYC make their own, and those can be worthwhile.
  • Non-AI web searches

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    I've been using DuckDuckGo for several years and prefer it over Google Search. WaPo had this article about avoiding AI in Google and DDG. It includes your udm14 option plus some others. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/try-these-hidden-nope-buttons-to-stop-ai-content/ar-AA1J4YgS
  • Potential anti-aging treatments

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    @RealPlayer said in Potential anti-aging treatments: If I identify as as mouse, can I get the treatment now? me too please!
  • WWII maps

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  • Kennedy Center

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    There are other venues.
  • You guys might understand this and might enjoy it

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    Charles Ringling"s summer mansion in Sarasota has a pipe organ and a '20"s Steinway grand piano in it. It was the only preserved room in the house. It was and was always the music room. DeSantis could have turned into a roller rink by now for all I know. I can't watch this now because I'm at the clubhouse standing in the fog charging my phone.
  • Meanwhile, in Venezuela

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    @DougG said in Meanwhile, in Venezuela: I would think this pretty much locks up the Nobel peace prize, right? It makes a mockery of the FIFA Peace Prize one might even say.
  • Keep Watch

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    @Steve-Miller Yup, though Blancpain and IWC are my dreams I've always fancied an outdoor climbing/trekking smart watch like the Suunto. Though the Monblanc is stylish
  • Palladium Style Estate

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    Second question first-- no, I'm not taking him with me period. If I might speak freely-- I hope he dies in his sleep tonight. I viscerally hate him and don't want to look at him or hear him speak for one more day out of the days I have to left on this earth. Second question-- no, I don't need the money. I'm going to ensure the park takes ownership of this place for non-payment of rent and RM walks away without a dime. Thank you for your kind wishes.
  • Mechanic in a Bottle

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    wtgW
    We had no trouble finding it up in Door County. Surrounded by water and tons of boats. I just checked a website that helps locate gas stations that have it and the closest one is 39 miles, up near the Chain of Lakes area.
  • Easy Saffron Seafood Stew

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    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0e16Ptnd1hNvpnmriB2bHGspA
  • Sinking Dams

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    Certainly worth monitoring. The two largest losses of life in Pennsylvania due to dam failures occurred over a century ago. Most people have probably heard of the Johnstown flood caused by the failure of the dam upstream from that city. David McCollough wrote an excellent book on that disaster. The next-biggest, upstream of Austin, PA was the result of a paper mill's dam failure and killed 78 people (more details here: https://w.wiki/HJBV). Remnants of that dam remain to this day in a park-like setting. Big Al
  • Have you ever seen a “lunga” symbol before? (type of fermata)

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    I’ve seen the bracket-like long pause but not the peaked-roof one.
  • BYD > Tesla

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    No - not sold in the US.
  • Busting food myths

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    @RealPlayer Exactly. Except it’s best described as an eating framework. Nothing is strictly forbidden, nothing is absolutely required. Keyes wasn’t selling diet books.
  • Mary Anna

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  • Low-dose aspirin

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    I get a low dose of aspirin in my generic Excedrin. A super-healthy product, Excedrin. I kid. But you know what? Just like people say with caffeine or sugar, I'm addicted to it.