Ukraine, the next steps

[Rontuner]

I'd be easily convinced that the "tech bros" managed to alter votes away from Harris...

[ShiroKuro]

I can't even with the voting stuff.... It just makes me feel full of despair because I don't see how we can have a legitimate election in the future, with all that Trump's being doing, and yes, those tech bros...

[wtg]

Trump left the meeting yesterday to call Putin.

The leash is even shorter than I thought. And it's attached to a choke collar.

[wtg]

Short interview with Macron. He comments about what DJT said to him that was caught on a hot mic.

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/french-president-emmanuel-macron-responds-to-trump-s-comments-about-a-ukraine-deal-from-putin-245243461686

[pique]

@wtg for some reason that video won't play.

[pique]

I think Canada and the EU are going to have to take drastic action. If Putin is allowed to get away with this, Europe is next. The gasbag-in-chief is obviously completely useless. Quit including him in anything. Quit deferring to him. Pretend he doesn't exist and go save Ukraine. People have got to learn how to deal with narcissistic sociopaths. It's not by pandering to them.

[wtg]

@pique said in Ukraine, the next steps:

@wtg for some reason that video won't play.

I'm using Brave as my browser on a Windows 11 PC. I just tried it and it auto-plays for me.

Maybe copy the link and try it in another browser?

[wtg]

I didn't see this earlier. It's the full 20 minute interview with Macron.

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/full-interview-french-president-macron-discusses-white-house-summit-on-war-in-ukraine-245275717602

[Piano*Dad]

These are fine words, but Europe must remilitarize or submit. Simple choice.

[AndyD]

And yet I dislike your Vicepotus even more.

Not sure why tbh, he's an educated professional, served with the marines; but trad RC, opposed to abortion & gun control & same sex marriage.
It's easy to say Mr T is bloody awful because...
but I can't quite put my finger on my reason to dislike Mr V even more.

I digress

Ukraine looks like becoming another Korea. West Ukraine & East Ukraine

[Daniel.]

There would be historical precedent for it or at least historical explanation.

In any case, no regime change in Russia. It's Russia, FFS. Let's get a grip.

I'm not saying anything here wants it. It's what the neocons in both parties want.

The clowns entertained me and scared me as clowns are wont to do to us.