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  • wtgW wtg

    More analysis of the agent鈥檚 cell phone video. Remarkable that he managed to take a video, draw his weapon and fire it multiple times, successfully hit his target, called her a f**king bitch, all without dropping his phone.

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/09/us/ice-shooting-minneapolis-renee-good-cell-phone-invs

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    @wtg said in In Minneapolis:

    Remarkable that he managed to take a video, draw his weapon and fire it multiple times, successfully hit his target, called her a f**king bitch, all without dropping his phone.

    While also being scared for his life, apparently.

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      It seems pretty obvious to me who the domestic terrorists are - both in Washington and out in the field...

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        The first part of Smerconish's show this morning was about the Minnesota shooting. He looked at it from the position of what the use-of-force guidelines are for the ICE agent. That is the standard against which the incident needs to be evaluated. He talked a bit about CBP and ICE guidelines and also those of various local (non-federal) police departments. Sort of "generally accepted practices".

        Here are a couple of documents on use of force. One is for ICE, the other for CBP.

        ICE (see policy statement on page 62): https://imlive.s3.amazonaws.com/Federal Government/ID255426897069329047495080324203699905714/2.2.1_Attachment 21 - ICE Firearms and Use of Force Directive and Handbook.pdf

        CBP: https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2021-Jul/cbp-use-of-force-policy_4500-002A.pdf

        It will be interesting to see if these suddenly get updated. I've downloaded both; I'm sure lots of other people have, too.

        I'll post a link to the show later if it shows up online. He also interviewed someone who is an expert witness in cases like these.

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aum么nier

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          Here's the segment on Smerconish.

          https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/10/us/video/what-reasonable-force-actually-means

          I was surprised that he thinks a conviction is unlikely, especially after I read the use of force guidelines that he presented. Seems to me that the ICE agent broke a lot of rules.

          I hope that Minnesota does its own investigation, as I don't trust the FBI, ICE, and the DOJ to be unbiased. Their track record on other cases (like the ones in Chicago) is not good.

          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aum么nier

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            It was frightening to see it the video. That woman didn't seem to be scared and likely didn't have any idea what was about to happen to her.

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              When narrative outpaces evidence.

              https://quillette.com/2026/01/10/when-narrative-outpaces-evidence-the-minnesota-ice-shooting/

              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aum么nier

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