In Minneapolis
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Kevin Williams made a good point. This wasn’t a law enforcement action it was a road rage incident. ICE isn’t empowered to enforce traffic laws, they’re empowered to detain people on reasonable suspicion of immigration violation.
Also one goon was yelling at her to clear the path the other goon yelling at her to get out of the car. One wonders if she had gotten out of the car if she simply would have been shot by the other goon instead.
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Kevin Williams made a good point. This wasn’t a law enforcement action it was a road rage incident. ICE isn’t empowered to enforce traffic laws, they’re empowered to detain people on reasonable suspicion of immigration violation.
Also one goon was yelling at her to clear the path the other goon yelling at her to get out of the car. One wonders if she had gotten out of the car if she simply would have been shot by the other goon instead.
@jon-nyc said in In Minneapolis:
This wasn’t a law enforcement action it was a road rage incident.
That's what I was seeing in those videos. They were plain pissed off and their emotions took off on them.
Like I said, ten seconds from face-to-face confrontation to dead is crazy.
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If you want your blood boiling some more, the shooter apparently released video to exculpate himself, which does the exact opposite. And DHS has all of this information and still gaslights us.
Many people in government need to be arrested and tried, even if it's four years from now. No "forgive and forget."
Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.
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If you want your blood boiling some more, the shooter apparently released video to exculpate himself, which does the exact opposite. And DHS has all of this information and still gaslights us.
Many people in government need to be arrested and tried, even if it's four years from now. No "forgive and forget."
@Piano-Dad said in In Minneapolis:
the shooter apparently released video to exculpate himself, which does the exact opposite.
It certainly does.
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If you want your blood boiling some more, the shooter apparently released video to exculpate himself, which does the exact opposite. And DHS has all of this information and still gaslights us.
Many people in government need to be arrested and tried, even if it's four years from now. No "forgive and forget."
Fox News coverage. It was definitely road rage.
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More analysis of the agent’s cell phone video. Remarkable that he managed to take a video, draw his weapon and fire it multiple times, successfully hit his target, called her a f**king bitch, all without dropping his phone.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/09/us/ice-shooting-minneapolis-renee-good-cell-phone-invs
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More analysis of the agent’s cell phone video. Remarkable that he managed to take a video, draw his weapon and fire it multiple times, successfully hit his target, called her a f**king bitch, all without dropping his phone.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/09/us/ice-shooting-minneapolis-renee-good-cell-phone-invs
@wtg said in In Minneapolis:
Remarkable that he managed to take a video, draw his weapon and fire it multiple times, successfully hit his target, called her a f**king bitch, all without dropping his phone.
While also being scared for his life, apparently.
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The first part of Smerconish's show this morning was about the Minnesota shooting. He looked at it from the position of what the use-of-force guidelines are for the ICE agent. That is the standard against which the incident needs to be evaluated. He talked a bit about CBP and ICE guidelines and also those of various local (non-federal) police departments. Sort of "generally accepted practices".
Here are a couple of documents on use of force. One is for ICE, the other for CBP.
ICE (see policy statement on page 62): https://imlive.s3.amazonaws.com/Federal Government/ID255426897069329047495080324203699905714/2.2.1_Attachment 21 - ICE Firearms and Use of Force Directive and Handbook.pdf
It will be interesting to see if these suddenly get updated. I've downloaded both; I'm sure lots of other people have, too.
I'll post a link to the show later if it shows up online. He also interviewed someone who is an expert witness in cases like these.
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Here's the segment on Smerconish.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/10/us/video/what-reasonable-force-actually-means
I was surprised that he thinks a conviction is unlikely, especially after I read the use of force guidelines that he presented. Seems to me that the ICE agent broke a lot of rules.
I hope that Minnesota does its own investigation, as I don't trust the FBI, ICE, and the DOJ to be unbiased. Their track record on other cases (like the ones in Chicago) is not good.
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When narrative outpaces evidence.
https://quillette.com/2026/01/10/when-narrative-outpaces-evidence-the-minnesota-ice-shooting/
