In Minneapolis
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Kevin Williams made a good point. This wasn’t a law enforcement action it was a road rage incident. ICE isn’t empowered to enforce traffic laws, they’re empowered to detain people on reasonable suspicion of immigration violation.
Also one goon was yelling at her to clear the path the other goon yelling at her to get out of the car. One wonders if she had gotten out of the car if she simply would have been shot by the other goon instead.
@jon-nyc said in In Minneapolis:
This wasn’t a law enforcement action it was a road rage incident.
That's what I was seeing in those videos. They were plain pissed off and their emotions took off on them.
Like I said, ten seconds from face-to-face confrontation to dead is crazy.
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If you want your blood boiling some more, the shooter apparently released video to exculpate himself, which does the exact opposite. And DHS has all of this information and still gaslights us.
Many people in government need to be arrested and tried, even if it's four years from now. No "forgive and forget."
Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.
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If you want your blood boiling some more, the shooter apparently released video to exculpate himself, which does the exact opposite. And DHS has all of this information and still gaslights us.
Many people in government need to be arrested and tried, even if it's four years from now. No "forgive and forget."
@Piano-Dad said in In Minneapolis:
the shooter apparently released video to exculpate himself, which does the exact opposite.
It certainly does.
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If you want your blood boiling some more, the shooter apparently released video to exculpate himself, which does the exact opposite. And DHS has all of this information and still gaslights us.
Many people in government need to be arrested and tried, even if it's four years from now. No "forgive and forget."
Fox News coverage. It was definitely road rage.
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More analysis of the agent’s cell phone video. Remarkable that he managed to take a video, draw his weapon and fire it multiple times, successfully hit his target, called her a f**king bitch, all without dropping his phone.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/09/us/ice-shooting-minneapolis-renee-good-cell-phone-invs
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More analysis of the agent’s cell phone video. Remarkable that he managed to take a video, draw his weapon and fire it multiple times, successfully hit his target, called her a f**king bitch, all without dropping his phone.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/09/us/ice-shooting-minneapolis-renee-good-cell-phone-invs
@wtg said in In Minneapolis:
Remarkable that he managed to take a video, draw his weapon and fire it multiple times, successfully hit his target, called her a f**king bitch, all without dropping his phone.
While also being scared for his life, apparently.
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The first part of Smerconish's show this morning was about the Minnesota shooting. He looked at it from the position of what the use-of-force guidelines are for the ICE agent. That is the standard against which the incident needs to be evaluated. He talked a bit about CBP and ICE guidelines and also those of various local (non-federal) police departments. Sort of "generally accepted practices".
Here are a couple of documents on use of force. One is for ICE, the other for CBP.
ICE (see policy statement on page 62): https://imlive.s3.amazonaws.com/Federal Government/ID255426897069329047495080324203699905714/2.2.1_Attachment 21 - ICE Firearms and Use of Force Directive and Handbook.pdf
It will be interesting to see if these suddenly get updated. I've downloaded both; I'm sure lots of other people have, too.
I'll post a link to the show later if it shows up online. He also interviewed someone who is an expert witness in cases like these.
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Here's the segment on Smerconish.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/10/us/video/what-reasonable-force-actually-means
I was surprised that he thinks a conviction is unlikely, especially after I read the use of force guidelines that he presented. Seems to me that the ICE agent broke a lot of rules.
I hope that Minnesota does its own investigation, as I don't trust the FBI, ICE, and the DOJ to be unbiased. Their track record on other cases (like the ones in Chicago) is not good.
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When narrative outpaces evidence.
https://quillette.com/2026/01/10/when-narrative-outpaces-evidence-the-minnesota-ice-shooting/
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In Philadelphia--
Link to video -
This is not good.
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From Instagram - not sure if you can see the video. Thoughtful.
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ICE is just part of Trump and the GOP's campaign to make America a totalitarian state. Immigration is just one cover for carrying out that goal. Under the false guise of rounding up criminal, illegal immigrants ICE is murdering American citizens of all colors. That orange SOB wants complete control--and the republicans are willing to give it to him--over the economy (the outrageous Powell episode unfolding right now), the states via intimidation and fear (ICE). We are heading down the path of totalitarianism faster than you say the word. ICE is our Gestapo, the force that ensures intimidation of all. The Democrats in power better have their eyes wide open.
I'm glad to see impeachment proceedings against Noem under way. And, the Democrats had better be ready, willing, and able to stall a new funding bill unless it contains severe limitations (if not the abolishment) of ICE. Cause otherwise, it's not going to be safe anywhere, no matter where you were born or what color your skin is.
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At least two of his shots were after the bumper had moved beyond him Andy.
True she was on the wrong trying to leave the scene. But here cops can’t execute you for it.
@jon-nyc said in In Minneapolis:
At least two of his shots were after the bumper had moved beyond him Andy.
True she was on the wrong trying to leave the scene. But here cops can’t execute you for it.
Bingo. There was no reason to fire on her, he was well out of harm's way by that time. Yeah, she had a hand in the tragedy but that does not absolve the agent. As most of you know, I usually come down on the side of LEOs in these things, but I cannot here. That woman simply panicked when they got violent. It would have been an easy matter to pick her up later.
