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  • wtgW Offline
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    wtg
    wrote last edited by wtg
    #64

    Here's the segment on Smerconish.

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/10/us/video/what-reasonable-force-actually-means

    I was surprised that he thinks a conviction is unlikely, especially after I read the use of force guidelines that he presented. Seems to me that the ICE agent broke a lot of rules.

    I hope that Minnesota does its own investigation, as I don't trust the FBI, ICE, and the DOJ to be unbiased. Their track record on other cases (like the ones in Chicago) is not good.

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      Daniel
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      #65

      It was frightening to see it the video. That woman didn't seem to be scared and likely didn't have any idea what was about to happen to her.

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      • wtgW Offline
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        #66

        When narrative outpaces evidence.

        https://quillette.com/2026/01/10/when-narrative-outpaces-evidence-the-minnesota-ice-shooting/

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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          #67

          In Philadelphia--

          Link to video

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          • wtgW Offline
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            #68

            This is not good.

            https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/immigration-agents-deploy-tear-gas-pepper-spray-minneapolis-confrontat-rcna253782

            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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            • wtgW wtg

              This is not good.

              https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/immigration-agents-deploy-tear-gas-pepper-spray-minneapolis-confrontat-rcna253782

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              #69

              @wtg said in In Minneapolis:

              This is not good.

              https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/immigration-agents-deploy-tear-gas-pepper-spray-minneapolis-confrontat-rcna253782

              Infuriating. And terrifying.

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                Rontuner
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                #70

                From Instagram - not sure if you can see the video. Thoughtful.

                https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTb2VBJkUim/?igsh=MTRsaGw1NmwzdHE2dg%3D%3D&fbclid=IwY2xjawPUh_FleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFoZTc2Wnl1UjZtNmNnMUlPc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHuzmcr-c1XSioLFSyGqkBvc1I2HWu1AGJqnKkw8KdPjOSVSpMrE4z2NPnAOT_aem_bNewS2ck6IVnBkdZhRldkQ

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                  Bernard
                  wrote last edited by Bernard
                  #71

                  ICE is just part of Trump and the GOP's campaign to make America a totalitarian state. Immigration is just one cover for carrying out that goal. Under the false guise of rounding up criminal, illegal immigrants ICE is murdering American citizens of all colors. That orange SOB wants complete control--and the republicans are willing to give it to him--over the economy (the outrageous Powell episode unfolding right now), the states via intimidation and fear (ICE). We are heading down the path of totalitarianism faster than you say the word. ICE is our Gestapo, the force that ensures intimidation of all. The Democrats in power better have their eyes wide open.

                  I'm glad to see impeachment proceedings against Noem under way. And, the Democrats had better be ready, willing, and able to stall a new funding bill unless it contains severe limitations (if not the abolishment) of ICE. Cause otherwise, it's not going to be safe anywhere, no matter where you were born or what color your skin is.

                  The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                  • J jon-nyc

                    At least two of his shots were after the bumper had moved beyond him Andy.

                    True she was on the wrong trying to leave the scene. But here cops can’t execute you for it.

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                    wrote last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in In Minneapolis:

                    At least two of his shots were after the bumper had moved beyond him Andy.

                    True she was on the wrong trying to leave the scene. But here cops can’t execute you for it.

                    Bingo. There was no reason to fire on her, he was well out of harm's way by that time. Yeah, she had a hand in the tragedy but that does not absolve the agent. As most of you know, I usually come down on the side of LEOs in these things, but I cannot here. That woman simply panicked when they got violent. It would have been an easy matter to pick her up later.

                    “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                    ― Douglas Adams

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                      #73

                      There's a proliferation of AI modified "videos" from both sides now. Without direct access to the phones from Good's wife and the ICE agent who shot her (which have been confiscated by the FBI), I'm not sure we'll ever get an unbiased account,

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                      • wtgW Offline
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                        #74

                        Current and former ICE agents weigh in.

                        https://time.com/7345954/ice-agents-renee-good/

                        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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