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  • wtgW Offline
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    wtg
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    #18

    Short interview with Macron. He comments about what DJT said to him that was caught on a hot mic.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/video/french-president-emmanuel-macron-responds-to-trump-s-comments-about-a-ukraine-deal-from-putin-245243461686

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      @wtg for some reason that video won't play.

      fear is the thief of dreams

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        I think Canada and the EU are going to have to take drastic action. If Putin is allowed to get away with this, Europe is next. The gasbag-in-chief is obviously completely useless. Quit including him in anything. Quit deferring to him. Pretend he doesn't exist and go save Ukraine. People have got to learn how to deal with narcissistic sociopaths. It's not by pandering to them.

        fear is the thief of dreams

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          @wtg for some reason that video won't play.

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          @pique said in Ukraine, the next steps:

          @wtg for some reason that video won't play.

          I'm using Brave as my browser on a Windows 11 PC. I just tried it and it auto-plays for me.

          Maybe copy the link and try it in another browser?

          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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          • wtgW Offline
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            I didn't see this earlier. It's the full 20 minute interview with Macron.

            https://www.nbcnews.com/video/full-interview-french-president-macron-discusses-white-house-summit-on-war-in-ukraine-245275717602

            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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              #23

              These are fine words, but Europe must remilitarize or submit. Simple choice.

              Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                AndyD
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                #24

                And yet I dislike your Vicepotus even more.

                Not sure why tbh, he's an educated professional, served with the marines; but trad RC, opposed to abortion & gun control & same sex marriage.
                It's easy to say Mr T is bloody awful because...
                but I can't quite put my finger on my reason to dislike Mr V even more.

                I digress

                Ukraine looks like becoming another Korea. West Ukraine & East Ukraine

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                  Daniel.
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                  #25

                  There would be historical precedent for it or at least historical explanation.

                  In any case, no regime change in Russia. It's Russia, FFS. Let's get a grip.

                  I'm not saying anything here wants it. It's what the neocons in both parties want.

                  The clowns entertained me and scared me as clowns are wont to do to us.

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                    Bit of background on Finland's Alexander Stubb.

                    https://www.nbcnews.com/world/ukraine/unexpectedly-pivotal-figure-ukraine-negotiations-speaks-rcna225840

                    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                      I read there are a million dead in Ukraine. I'm definitely sure they are conscripting men by kidnapping them off the street. It's clearly a war meaning I guess it could go on like this indefinitely or there could be a peace deal. Ukraine's military is full of Nazis. I don't mean fascists. I mean Nazis. Why not bring this to an end instead of letting Ukraine suffer these terrible consequences and why keep throwing money into yet another foreign war while the US people continue to sustain vicious degradation in their ability to afford the necessities of life?

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