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    Daniel.
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    SK, I can do one better! I haven't heard a recording of one. / Scribbles note on bucket list 🤪

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      Have you played any Faz?

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      Bernard
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      @AndyD Yes, but it was several years ago and not 10'2".

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        btw how did Vinheteiro get invited to that unboxing! Being a piano influencer obviously has some perks!! 😄

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          RealPlayer
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          I don’t know who this guy is, but why did he keep looking over his shoulder at the camera and holding up his index finger? Weird.

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            Axtremus
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            That pianist is a YouTuber. That static stare is his trademark look.

            I played a few Faziolis and consider them consistently among the best. To this day I still think the best piano I have ever played is a Fazioli. Faziolis can be very clear. The specimen shown in that unboxing video certainly sounds “very clear” to me. But I don’t think Debussy meant for Clair de Lune to be this “clear.” So I blame the pianist — use more pedal, man.

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            • R RealPlayer

              I don’t know who this guy is, but why did he keep looking over his shoulder at the camera and holding up his index finger? Weird.

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              Bernard
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              @RealPlayer It's part of his schtick. He's a bit of a comic. The pointing finger and the deadpan look.

              Link to video

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                I didn't used to like Vinheteiro (@RealPlayer that's the state/finger guy) but some how he grew on me. Some of his videos are hysterical, once you figure out that he's not a psychopath! 😄

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                  I didn't used to like Vinheteiro (@RealPlayer that's the state/finger guy) but some how he grew on me. Some of his videos are hysterical, once you figure out that he's not a psychopath! 😄

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                  Bernard
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                  @ShiroKuro I thought this recent one was hilarious! It's so silly.

                  Link to video

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                    RealPlayer
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                    Thanks for the, uh, explanation. I thought when he pointed his finger at the end of a phrase maybe it meant, “ Wow, listen to that sustain!”

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                      @ShiroKuro I thought this recent one was hilarious! It's so silly.

                      Link to video

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                      @Bernard omg!! That’s very, very silly!!

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                      • R RealPlayer

                        Thanks for the, uh, explanation. I thought when he pointed his finger at the end of a phrase maybe it meant, “ Wow, listen to that sustain!”

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                        AndyD
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                        @RealPlayer said in Fazioli 10'2":

                        Thanks for the, uh, explanation. I thought when he pointed his finger at the end of a phrase maybe it meant, “ Wow, listen to that sustain!”

                        This.
                        And not just the sustain.
                        Saying with his finger listen to the bass, the beautiful midrange. It's a lovely sound, a refreshing change from the omnipresent Steinway D zing.

                        This piano certainly sounds far nicer in the high treble than the handful I played 20 years ago.
                        But he only played up to what, Aflat in the 6th octave?
                        The Faziolis I played had a top octave or so that felt like sticking your head in a freezer and hearing icicles break.
                        If you think Bechstein are clear sounding and cool like the refreshing air from the fridge, the Faz goes too far for my taste.

                        I recall 20 years ago I visited a shop which had new Faz and Schimmel, and a nice surprise, a used 10 year old Pleyel. I liked the medium sized Pleyel a lot.

                        Then in the afternoon I went to the Bechstein dealer and for me, wow, they were best that day. They also had a fully restored 80 year old Bose upright for 22k, already sold, or I'd have that in my house right now.

                        Anyhow, really enjoyed the video, hearing a piano playing so beautifully right out of the box .

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                          jon-nyc
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                          I played one 20 years ago at the dealer on the old piano row.

                          Pique - who was that old guy who ran Beethoven Pianos? He called Fazzioli ‘the world’s greatest Yamaha’.

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                            I don’t know who this guy is, but why did he keep looking over his shoulder at the camera and holding up his index finger? Weird.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            @RealPlayer said in Fazioli 10'2":

                            I don’t know who this guy is, but why did he keep looking over his shoulder at the camera and holding up his index finger? Weird.

                            Disqualifyingly so. As in I would never watch his videos.

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                              I played one 20 years ago at the dealer on the old piano row.

                              Pique - who was that old guy who ran Beethoven Pianos? He called Fazzioli ‘the world’s greatest Yamaha’.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Fazioli 10'2":

                              He called Fazzioli ‘the world’s greatest Yamaha’.

                              I assume he meant that as an insult, but not everyone would take it so.

                              Anyway, based on the one and only time I’ve heard a Fazioli live, and the many times I’ve heard Yamahas, and the Yamahas I’ve owned, I wouldn’t describe Fazioli that way…. But my opinion is worth want people pay for it, I guess.

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                                The current high-end Yamahas are pretty damn nice.

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                                  I played one 20 years ago at the dealer on the old piano row.

                                  Pique - who was that old guy who ran Beethoven Pianos? He called Fazzioli ‘the world’s greatest Yamaha’.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Fazioli 10'2":

                                  I played one 20 years ago at the dealer on the old piano row.

                                  Pique - who was that old guy who ran Beethoven Pianos? He called Fazzioli ‘the world’s greatest Yamaha’.

                                  Carl Demler. I think that's a perfect description of the Fazioli. And no it is not meant as a compliment. I describe what I think of the Fazioli in G.O. Not for me. Too cold, not enough personality, too much striving for perfection. Put it next to any great European make that has been sensitively prepared and you would never touch one again.

                                  fear is the thief of dreams

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                                    AdagioM
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                                    I heard Piotr Anderszewski play Bach on a Fazioli, many years ago. The upper end was a little too tinkly/glassy for my taste. But lovely nonetheless.

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                                      Bernard
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                                      Link to video

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                                        kluurs
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                                        Angela Hewitt prefers Fazioli - and a couple of years ago, movers destroyed her favorite instrument. I think I'd prefer a nice Baldwin SD10, Bosendorfer, Steinway or Yamaha - but then again, I've not in the piano market for quite some time.

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                                          I think I’m in the piano market again. My 9 foot vintage Mason & Hamlin needs a new action, but more than that, if I suddenly died, my wife would be tasked with trying to get rid of it…not easy for a concert grand. I’m looking for a smaller M&H or Steinway, preferably golden-age and well rebuilt. I’ve found there are all kinds of resellers out there, particularly in Westchester and environs. I’ve already missed out on some nice ones…those from $15K-$25K sell fast.

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