In Minneapolis
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@wtg
𧥠right back at you and all here, at this upsetting incident.
I have no axe to grind, but admit to assuming not guilty unless proven.
I understand a bit of where you are coming from, the 90,000 Somali background, the effective invasion of federal ICE agents into the state.
I also understand a bit of the crapola which the Whitehouse puts out. Why do I dislike Vance so much?Ignoring the personas of the video and any ridiculous Vance theories; and looking at a video of the incident on BBC Verify, my take is:
That the driver was blocking the road and
the driver did not do as asked at least twice by law officers; and
the driver then tried to flee the scene driving in a way that endangered two officers by weaponising the vehicle.
That an officer shot at the vehicle once from in front then twice from the side.
Pretty factual.Can a video demonstrate intent/no intent by the driver to harm the officers? No.
The driver's actions could certainly be interpreted by the officers as a threat and attack.The first shot could reasonably be called self-defence. The other two side shots not. Lock him up. I'll listen to mitigation on his behalf.
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Vance sucks big time.Ventosa viri restabit
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Andy, I would tend to agree with you about obeying law enforcement - except for 2 things:
- These new recruits are acting lawlessly without regard for common practices of law enforcement.
- The US has a poor record for how police have treated people in the country - killed for 'driving while black' comes to mind.
So no, normal societal rules don't apply anymore.
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@wtg
𧥠right back at you and all here, at this upsetting incident.
I have no axe to grind, but admit to assuming not guilty unless proven.
I understand a bit of where you are coming from, the 90,000 Somali background, the effective invasion of federal ICE agents into the state.
I also understand a bit of the crapola which the Whitehouse puts out. Why do I dislike Vance so much?Ignoring the personas of the video and any ridiculous Vance theories; and looking at a video of the incident on BBC Verify, my take is:
That the driver was blocking the road and
the driver did not do as asked at least twice by law officers; and
the driver then tried to flee the scene driving in a way that endangered two officers by weaponising the vehicle.
That an officer shot at the vehicle once from in front then twice from the side.
Pretty factual.Can a video demonstrate intent/no intent by the driver to harm the officers? No.
The driver's actions could certainly be interpreted by the officers as a threat and attack.The first shot could reasonably be called self-defence. The other two side shots not. Lock him up. I'll listen to mitigation on his behalf.
BTW
Vance sucks big time. -
So much for transparency and accountability. The fix is in.
The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA) announced Thursday that it has "reluctantly withdrawn" from the investigation into the shooting of a woman by a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officer.
The state investigative bureau said it was informed by the FBI that it would no longer have access to materials required for a "thorough and independent" review.
Minnesota BCA Superintendent Drew Evans issued a statement on Thursday morning saying on Wednesday, "after consultation with the Hennepin County Attorneyâs Office, the U.S. Attorneyâs Office and the FBI, it was decided that the BCA Force Investigations Unit would conduct a joint investigation with the FBI" into the death of Renee Nicole Good during an ICE operation in south Minneapolis.
"Later that afternoon, the FBI informed the BCA that the U.S. Attorneyâs Office had reversed course: the investigation would now be led solely by the FBI, and the BCA would no longer have access to the case materials, scene evidence or investigative interviews necessary to complete a thorough and independent investigation," Evans continued.
"Without complete access to the evidence, witnesses and information collected, we cannot meet the investigative standards that Minnesota law and the public demands," he added. "As a result, the BCA has reluctantly withdrawn from the investigation. The BCA Force Investigations Unit was designed to ensure consistency, accountability and public confidence, none of which can be achieved without full cooperation and jurisdictional clarity."
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So my guess that he might have lacked training doesn't seem to pan out. I heard on our local news that he had 10 years experience.
And last year, he had this experience. Certainly could have affected his response in this situation. Though I still can't see how shooting the driver stops the car from hitting him.
The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent who fatally shot a 37-year-old woman in Minneapolis on Jan. 7 is Jonathan Ross, the same officer who was dragged and injured by a fleeing driver in a separate incident last year, according to a person with knowledge of the case and verified by court documents.
On June 17, Ross was participating in an arrest of Roberto Carlos Munoz-Guatemala, a Mexican citizen, in Bloomington last year. Munoz-Guatemala had previously been convicted of fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct and had been put on a detainer by immigration officials. Munoz-Guatemala ignored the agentsâ commands, including to fully roll down his car window, so Ross broke open his rear window and reached inside to unlock the door.
Munoz-Guatemala put the vehicle in drive and accelerated onto the curb, the charges said. Ross was dragged alongside the vehicle and twice fired his Taser as Munoz-Guatemala weaved back and forth âin an apparent attempt to shakeâ him from the car. About 300 feet down the road, Munoz-Guatemala re-entered the street and the force knocked the officer from the car.
The agent required 20 stitches for a deep cut in his right arm and another 13 stitches in his left hand, according to court documents. A jury convicted Munoz-Guatemala of assaulting a federal officer in December.
Hours after the shooting Wednesday morning, Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem said the agent involved had âbeen dragged by a vehicleâ in an earlier incident. At the time, she did not provide specific location details.
But she described the unnamed officer as âan experiencedâ agent whoâd been in similar situations before and âfollowed his training.â
From the Star Tribune, local Minneapolis paper.
https://archive.is/Alwuw#selection-365.0-365.132
edit: Confirmed that he's a 10 year veteran, and a resident of Minneapolis.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/08/ice-agent-minneapolis-shooting
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Another video has surfaced. Seen in The Intercept and I can only see it there, at least for now.
https://theintercept.com/2026/01/07/video-ice-shooting-civilian-minneapolis/
If you don't have an (free) Intercept account and want to at least read the article:
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Jasmine Crockett
Link to video
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Jared Moskowitz
Link to video
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CBP shot and wounded two people in Portland, OR today, in a medical clinic parking lot. Developing story here.
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The feds are preventing MN from investigating. The state must take over anyway, do the best it can, and bring the issue to a grand jury.
@Piano-Dad said in In Minneapolis:
The feds are preventing MN from investigating. The state must take over anyway, do the best it can, and bring the issue to a grand jury.
Agreed.
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Kevin Williams made a good point. This wasnât a law enforcement action it was a road rage incident. ICE isnât empowered to enforce traffic laws, theyâre empowered to detain people on reasonable suspicion of immigration violation.
Also one goon was yelling at her to clear the path the other goon yelling at her to get out of the car. One wonders if she had gotten out of the car if she simply would have been shot by the other goon instead.
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Kevin Williams made a good point. This wasnât a law enforcement action it was a road rage incident. ICE isnât empowered to enforce traffic laws, theyâre empowered to detain people on reasonable suspicion of immigration violation.
Also one goon was yelling at her to clear the path the other goon yelling at her to get out of the car. One wonders if she had gotten out of the car if she simply would have been shot by the other goon instead.
@jon-nyc said in In Minneapolis:
This wasnât a law enforcement action it was a road rage incident.
That's what I was seeing in those videos. They were plain pissed off and their emotions took off on them.
Like I said, ten seconds from face-to-face confrontation to dead is crazy.
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If you want your blood boiling some more, the shooter apparently released video to exculpate himself, which does the exact opposite. And DHS has all of this information and still gaslights us.
Many people in government need to be arrested and tried, even if it's four years from now. No "forgive and forget."
Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.
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If you want your blood boiling some more, the shooter apparently released video to exculpate himself, which does the exact opposite. And DHS has all of this information and still gaslights us.
Many people in government need to be arrested and tried, even if it's four years from now. No "forgive and forget."
@Piano-Dad said in In Minneapolis:
the shooter apparently released video to exculpate himself, which does the exact opposite.
It certainly does.
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If you want your blood boiling some more, the shooter apparently released video to exculpate himself, which does the exact opposite. And DHS has all of this information and still gaslights us.
Many people in government need to be arrested and tried, even if it's four years from now. No "forgive and forget."
Fox News coverage. It was definitely road rage.
