Now Jimmy Kimmel

ShiroKuro

I agree, @Bernard . I don’t watch American TV and haven’t ever watched the show, although I would see snippets of Jimmy Kimmel that people would post. So this doesn’t affect me directly, but it affects all of us.

This country is no longer “the land of the free,” we do not have free speech here anymore.

ShiroKuro

Speaking of which (ok, we’re not really speaking of this, but…) I often read this guy’s column in the NYT. he’s a self-described conservative, and while he often makes points I disagree with, I usually appreciate reading his perspective…. But this week… I feel like he’s really missing the point with his article, “ Why the Kirk Assassination Is a Warning to the Left”
The link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/16/opinion/charlie-kirk-assassination-left-violence.html

He wrote:

How do you love your country when it’s governed by a man you hate?

It’s not about whether people “hate” Trump. It’s about what he and his are doing to this country.

What makes life worth living if the course of history isn’t what you thought?

It’s not about the course of history. It’s more like, what makes life worth living when people fear that they’re going to lose their jobs for very unfair reasons.

If everything feels like power relations, and power has slipped from your fingers, where can you find the good, the beautiful, the true?

It’s not about power, it’s about the ability to buy food at the grocery store, marry who you want, freely travel abroad, speak your mind, get a vaccine, see scientific research continue, be a legal immigrant, be confident in our food safety and weather forecasts…. Be proud to be an American….

I won’t go on, but this guy is missing the point…

To me, Jimmy Kimmel is another example of everything that’s happening in this country that is wrong and truly, deeply unAmerican.

Steve Miller

It’s almost like corporations aren’t really people.

Rontuner

Gone - Land of the Free and Home of the Brave. Republicans replaced that with Be Afraid of "Them" and the Government will tell you what to do and say.

sad

Axtremus

@Bernard said in Now Jimmy Kimmel:

... We saw this summer how so many corporations, historically "supportive" of LGBTs, withdrew support for pride events. How many of them turned their backs on efforts to be inclusive.

Well, historically, most of them were not supportive of LGBTs before they became supportive of LGBTs.

I urge everyone to boycott Disney, ABC, and all their affiliates.

i used to watch a lot of Disney shows when I had cable TV subscription, but these days I already consume very little, almost nil, of Disney or ABC's content. Nothing to do with Kimmel; it's been like this before Kimmel's cancellation. And I still plan to watch those Marvel (owned by Disney) superhero movies when new ones are released.

Big business is not your friend.

Never thought they were, it's really just business. I just find it ~~hard~~ very inconvenient to live without them. My car, the gasoline, the electricity, my phone, my computer, my Internet access, ... they are all products of "big businesses."

Bernard

@Axtremus said in Now Jimmy Kimmel:

Never thought they were, it's really just business. I just find it hard very inconvenient to live without them. My car, the gasoline, the electricity, my phone, my computer, my Internet access, ... they are all products of "big businesses."

We pay a price for convenience, always. That doesn't mean we shouldn't enjoy convenience, but we should be aware of what we're giving up when we choose to let corporations run amok. We don't have to live in a nation where corporations have more power than the people. The people are sovereign, not corporations.

It's not a question of whether or not you get much from Disney, ABC, CBS, and the whole lot of them. It's a question of our Constitutional rights.

I cannot, and will not, support companies for whom Democracy and the Constitution, with it's Amendments, mean so little. They don't deserve corporate charters.

pique

Corporations are only interested in one thing--making money for their shareholders and themselves. That's it. They are amoral entities. Which of course is why they should never be considered "persons." Persons, typically, have consciences. Corporations do not.

As for Kimmel, when I heard the news, the first thing I said to Mr. Pique is, "This is getting really scary."

And, it is. I mean, the handwriting has been on the wall for quite some time that this was where we are headed, but here is the proof. We're there now.

I tell myself all the time, lately, that we are foolish for not getting out of this country while the getting is good. But just thinking about it is paralyzing. "Am I really sure it is time to go? How will I know when it is time to go?" Which is how my ethnic group ended up in death camps.

I am heartened by all the strong voices in public life that are still speaking out. We have got to fight this as hard as we can, as hard as we know how. The next No Kings march is October 18th. I've joined my local Indivisible organization and I'm going to take their trainings. It feels like it isn't much, but at least it isn't nothing.

Bernard

@pique We need a national strike.

For me, watching and reading Jen Rubin and Norm Eisen at The Contrarian helps a lot.

pique

@Bernard said in Now Jimmy Kimmel:

@pique We need a national strike.

For me, watching and reading Jen Rubin and Norm Eisen at The Contrarian helps a lot.

totally agree about the national strike. long overdue. I have had to stop watching all the podcasts and stuff on substack. my inbox was becoming a nightmare.

Axtremus

I suppose this speaks to @Bernard's point:

When even Ben & Jerry’s can’t speak out, it’s clear: the era of corporate responsibility is over | Austin Sarat

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/19/trump-ben-and-jerrys

wtg

Link to video

Steve Miller

Piano*Dad

Yeah, Maher was indeed "cancelled" by ABC under fire from the Bush administration. And he was cancelled for saying something arguably correct, that the people who flew the planes into the WTC and the Pentagon may have been scum but they were not cowards.