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Which Piano would you choose?

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    Bernard
    wrote on 23 Apr 2025, 19:38 last edited by
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    I thought the 1882 Palisandra had the most beautiful tone. I would have opted for that one.

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      23 Apr 2025, 19:38

      I thought the 1882 Palisandra had the most beautiful tone. I would have opted for that one.

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      ShiroKuro
      wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 00:31 last edited by
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      @Bernard said in Which Piano would you choose?:

      1882 Palisandra

      Isn't that the one he said was heavy? I don't like "heavy" in piano action. That would supersede the tone, for me.

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      • S ShiroKuro
        24 Apr 2025, 00:31

        @Bernard said in Which Piano would you choose?:

        1882 Palisandra

        Isn't that the one he said was heavy? I don't like "heavy" in piano action. That would supersede the tone, for me.

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        Bernard
        wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 01:47 last edited by Bernard
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        @ShiroKuro Yes, it's the one he said was heavy. Unfortunately, even though they had a number of pianists play the pianos, the article only gives us Denk's reactions.

        I don't like heavy actions either so I'd get it adjusted. But the tone... so beautiful! (I wonder if it's at all attributable to the heavier action? Hm.)

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        • S ShiroKuro
          23 Apr 2025, 16:16

          Also check out the photos of the Frick, lovely!

          https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/19/arts/design/frick-museum-reopening-nyc.html

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          Bernard
          wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 01:49 last edited by
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          @ShiroKuro Yes, it's beautiful inside. I visited it once (in all the years I lived there). The grand staircase is very grand.

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          • B Bernard
            24 Apr 2025, 01:47

            @ShiroKuro Yes, it's the one he said was heavy. Unfortunately, even though they had a number of pianists play the pianos, the article only gives us Denk's reactions.

            I don't like heavy actions either so I'd get it adjusted. But the tone... so beautiful! (I wonder if it's at all attributable to the heavier action? Hm.)

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            ShiroKuro
            wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 02:16 last edited by
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            @Bernard said in Which Piano would you choose?:

            even though they had a number of pianists play the pianos, the article only gives us Denk's reactions

            Yes, I noticed that. Also the title suggests it was his choice, but the article is less clear??

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              AndyD
              wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 06:50 last edited by
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              None of those three for me. Does it have to be a Steinway sound?

              What's the tariff on a Stuart&Sons piano from Australia?

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                RealPlayer
                wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 22:13 last edited by
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                NY Steinways are all so different from one another. I suspect the Hamburgs and other European makes are more consistent.

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                  AdagioM
                  wrote on 25 Apr 2025, 03:22 last edited by
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                  I liked the Hamburg best of these three.

                  @ShiroKuro can you just sneak in and play a few notes on the Fazioli?

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                  • A AdagioM
                    25 Apr 2025, 03:22

                    I liked the Hamburg best of these three.

                    @ShiroKuro can you just sneak in and play a few notes on the Fazioli?

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                    ShiroKuro
                    wrote on 25 Apr 2025, 10:46 last edited by ShiroKuro
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                    @AdagioM said in Which Piano would you choose?:

                    @ShiroKuro can you just sneak in and play a few notes on the Fazioli?

                    Dunno but I’ll probably try during the summer when there are fewer people around, and I have time to wander over there!

                    I’m not even sure where it usually is, there are a few different performance halls, and of the performances I’ve been to, I’ve only seen it once.

                    Actually, thinking about what my tuner said, it might be under the stage when not in use.

                    Anyway, I’m planning to go over to the music building (actually, buildings, there are several) and look for flyers (for piano teachers) so maybe I’ll snoop around and see if I can spot it. 😄

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                    • S Steve Miller
                      23 Apr 2025, 16:45

                      No one gets fired for choosing Steinway.

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                      pique
                      wrote on 25 Apr 2025, 23:14 last edited by
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                      @Steve-Miller said in Which Piano would you choose?:

                      No one gets fired for choosing Steinway.

                      It is New York, after all.

                      fear is the thief of dreams

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                        pique
                        wrote on 25 Apr 2025, 23:28 last edited by
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                        Cool article. Much better than the real estate ones it is modeled on (which apartment would you choose? Which one did the buyer choose? And then they reveal some critical piece of info in the answer that they neglected to mention higher up--like the basement was flooded.)

                        I have played several Centennial Ds, rebuilt by friends (Tali Mahanor is one) and they are a better piano for chamber music than the modern Ds, which are built for a big concert hall. They are a prized piano among technician-rebuilders, and the bidding on them is fierce when they come up for auction. I don't find their action heavy, but they are kind of "thuddy" compared to modern pianos, and that may create the impression of heaviness. In any event, the museum should get the newest piano it can, because they don't improve with age.

                        It was cool to see a mention of Tippet Rise, in Montana, which I plan to visit this summer. Unfortunately neither Mr. Pique nor I won the ticket lottery this time, but we can go hiking there and hope for a sale of last minute concert tickets.

                        Also cool to see Tali mentioned. She is an incredibly creative technician, and the idea of being able to swap out actions at will is kind of a great idea.

                        I agree the Hamburg sounds best, at least on my tablet speakers. It's a very different scale design than the New York Steinway, and I personally much prefer it--it's a lot like my piano.

                        fear is the thief of dreams

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                          Daniel.
                          wrote on 27 Apr 2025, 01:23 last edited by
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                          Get the Hamburg, get the Steinway name, have your cake and eat it too.

                          I read (don't know if it's true) that museums started as house museums in the Netherlands.

                          In a sense, also, what are all the stately and manorial houses in Europe if not museums?

                          It's an extraordinarily beautiful house.

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