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    Mik
    wrote on 8 Dec 2024, 13:26 last edited by
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    At 69, I'm not going to start worrying about this now. No one gets out alive. Having several black plastic utensils I use a lot, they are very seldom exposed to significant heat (for obvious reasons) and do not contact the food for long.

    What are the alternatives? Wood? Harbors germs, not dishwasher safe. Silicone? Is it really any better than plastic? I use some All-Clad nonstick saute pans, but that's all the nonstick I have.

    “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams

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      Mik
      wrote on 8 Dec 2024, 19:42 last edited by
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      For all my denial here, I have gone out and looked at silicone replacements....

      “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
      ― Douglas Adams

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      • M Mik
        8 Dec 2024, 19:42

        For all my denial here, I have gone out and looked at silicone replacements....

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        wtg
        wrote on 8 Dec 2024, 19:48 last edited by
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        @Mik said in Throw out your black spatula:

        silicone replacements

        Read on, Macduff...

        https://ceh.org/yourhealth/pros-cons-silicone/

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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        • M Mik
          8 Dec 2024, 13:26

          At 69, I'm not going to start worrying about this now. No one gets out alive. Having several black plastic utensils I use a lot, they are very seldom exposed to significant heat (for obvious reasons) and do not contact the food for long.

          What are the alternatives? Wood? Harbors germs, not dishwasher safe. Silicone? Is it really any better than plastic? I use some All-Clad nonstick saute pans, but that's all the nonstick I have.

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          ShiroKuro
          wrote on 8 Dec 2024, 19:57 last edited by
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          @Mik said in Throw out your black spatula:

          At 69, I'm not going to start worrying about this now. No one gets out alive.

          No, but all of us are experiencing increased longevity.

          Personally, I’m not 60 yet. I could easily live for another 25 years or more.

          That makes me wonder how much effort I want put into these kinds of things (cancer-reducing activities), and how much “return on investment “ I might see on that effort….

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            Mik
            wrote on 8 Dec 2024, 21:29 last edited by Mik 12 Aug 2024, 21:39
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            One can be compulsively careful about these things and get hit by a bus or a genetic predisposition you've had all your life. I'd personally be more interested in comprehensive genetic testing than I would worrying about kitchen utensils. (Disclaimer: I'm working deeply with that kind of genetic testing this year)

            Bear in mind also that our increasing lifespan has occurred as we have massively increased the chemicals in our environment, so we must be doing something right. Worry accomplishes little and steals joy.

            “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
            ― Douglas Adams

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            • M Mik
              8 Dec 2024, 21:29

              One can be compulsively careful about these things and get hit by a bus or a genetic predisposition you've had all your life. I'd personally be more interested in comprehensive genetic testing than I would worrying about kitchen utensils. (Disclaimer: I'm working deeply with that kind of genetic testing this year)

              Bear in mind also that our increasing lifespan has occurred as we have massively increased the chemicals in our environment, so we must be doing something right. Worry accomplishes little and steals joy.

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              ShiroKuro
              wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 01:54 last edited by
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              @Mik said in Throw out your black spatula:

              I'd personally be more interested in comprehensive genetic testing than I would worrying about kitchen utensils.

              That makes sense. Although I thought a lot the things that are tested for don't yet have clear treatment plans? Maybe that's outdated?

              Bear in mind also that our increasing lifespan has occurred as we have massively increased the chemicals in our environment, so we must be doing something right.

              Indeed! I never thought of it that way! Although OTOH, life spans are increasing, but what about all those articles I see which mention rising rates of various cancers? As always, it's complicated!

              Worry accomplishes little and steals joy.

              Of course. But if there are little changes one can make, perhaps over time, to nudge the needle, why not?

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                Steve Miller
                wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 04:31 last edited by
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                You can get a set of 15 silicone kitchen utensils for some $20 on Amazon.

                Couldn’t hurt.

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                  AndyD
                  wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 06:05 last edited by AndyD 12 Sept 2024, 06:10
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                  So I made a pile of plastics, a worn cutting board, old scratched trifle bowl we use for mixing, salad tongs, almost new black nylon spatula, two measuring cups.

                  Not much, we have and mostly use wood or glass alterntives.

                  Told MrsA. Asked if she'd like a cuppa?
                  And sighed
                  https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/nutmeg-home-classic-kettle-black/113488049

                  Does it count?

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                    ShiroKuro
                    wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 11:03 last edited by
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                    @AndyD oof.

                    I suppose what matters is the color, and material, on the inside of the pot?

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                      AndyD
                      wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 13:01 last edited by
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                      Black plastic and a rusting steel plate at the bottom.

                      Luckily it was such a bargain at £7.99 two years ago, I bought a spare 😄
                      Yes, we have another in unopened box in the garage

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                        Nina
                        wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 16:39 last edited by
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                        Parchment paper? Nooooo ....

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                          9 Dec 2024, 16:39

                          Parchment paper? Nooooo ....

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                          Steve Miller
                          wrote on 9 Dec 2024, 17:00 last edited by
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                          @Nina

                          But not all parchment paper, apparently.

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                            RealPlayer
                            wrote on 10 Dec 2024, 04:35 last edited by
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                            My daughter has a bunch of those old soft plastic drinking glasses in weird colors with embedded glitter in them. The exteriors are sticky, and you can feel roughness on the insides, so you know some of that plastic ends up in your drink. Yet she insists on glass food containers.

                            I think it’s time for an intervention.

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                              ShiroKuro
                              wrote on 10 Dec 2024, 11:30 last edited by
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                              Wait I missed the part about parchment paper….

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                                AndyD
                                wrote on 10 Dec 2024, 15:00 last edited by
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                                Kettles, good grief, what a can of worms.
                                Britain, tea drinkers of something like 40billion cups annually do not manufacture a single electric kettle!

                                Nearest non plastic electric kettle that's also not made in China appears to be (no not french or german...)
                                Italian.

                                I'm tempted to get a traditional small hob kettle.

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                                  10 Dec 2024, 15:00

                                  Kettles, good grief, what a can of worms.
                                  Britain, tea drinkers of something like 40billion cups annually do not manufacture a single electric kettle!

                                  Nearest non plastic electric kettle that's also not made in China appears to be (no not french or german...)
                                  Italian.

                                  I'm tempted to get a traditional small hob kettle.

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                                  wtg
                                  wrote on 10 Dec 2024, 15:10 last edited by wtg 12 Oct 2024, 15:12
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                                  @AndyD I know. I finally settled for a Chinese made (mostly) glass electric kettle a couple of years ago when I retired my Simplex. The Chefman does have a black plastic lid that water condenses on and drips back down into the kettle, probably not a good thing.

                                  I came close to incinerating the Simplex when I put water on to boil and then popped out to the back yard to take care of some gardening task or another. I'd be out there a little longer than expected and suddenly realize that the kettle was boiling dry. After the third near-miss I decided a kettle with auto-shutoff was probably a good idea. I still have the Simplex in the basement. Maybe I'll put it back to work, at least for the winter months when I'm mostly inside...

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                                    AndyD
                                    wrote on 10 Dec 2024, 16:42 last edited by
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                                    I suppose hob kettles ideally need to whistle.

                                    My replacement choices for our black plastic cylinder:

                                    https://www.globalkitchenjapan.com/products/ikenaga-cast-iron-contemporary-design-round-tetsubin-kettle

                                    https://ottonifabbrica.com/en/3-kettles
                                    (in cherry red)

                                    Who knew where a spatula thread could lead!

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                                      ShiroKuro
                                      wrote on 10 Dec 2024, 16:55 last edited by
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                                      That testubin is very handsome!

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                                        AdagioM
                                        wrote on 10 Dec 2024, 17:18 last edited by
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                                        Parchment papers don’t list their ingredients, so I can’t tell if the Kroger paper I’m using is going to kill me. But I don’t use it often.

                                        I do have a couple of Silpat silicone baking sheets; I could start using them more. They never feel quite clean, though, even after soapy Dawn dishwashing.

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                                          Daniel
                                          wrote on 11 Dec 2024, 05:11 last edited by Daniel 12 Nov 2024, 05:19
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                                          I believe all these materials and surfaces are dangerous as well as eating and drinking from anything made of plastic.

                                          My Dr. was talking with me about this once and said-- "We all have so much stuff in us."

                                          I think we were talking about radioactive substances used in medical testing.

                                          I'd like to be but I'm not purist on this topic. I don't like plastic containers because they're near impossible to hand wash. On the other hand, if I want to drink water or cold tea in a plastic bottle then I do it.

                                          Some synthetic material spatulas in my home have have been actually burned.

                                          This is when I make an executive decision and put them in the garage.

                                          When in doubt throw it out.

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