"Minnesota has had it."
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I expect that the NRA will send millions of 2nd Amendment fundamentalist Americans pouring into the streets to protest the assassination of a lawfully carrying white man ...
Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.
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I expect that the NRA will send millions of 2nd Amendment fundamentalist Americans pouring into the streets to protest the assassination of a lawfully carrying white man ...
@Piano-Dad said in "Minnesota has had it.":
I expect that the NRA will send millions of 2nd Amendment fundamentalist Americans pouring into the streets to protest the assassination of a lawfully carrying white man ...
I had a similar thought earlier today, wondering what the reaction of supporters of the 2nd Amendment might be.
Well....from the MN Gun Owners Caucus:
We are deeply concerned by this morning’s reports that a federal law enforcement operation in Minneapolis resulted in the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Alex Pretti by federal agents. According to local officials, the man was legally armed, a firearm was recovered at the scene, and he is believed to have been a lawful gun owner and permit to carry holder.
Many critical facts remain unknown.
We do not yet have an independent account of what initiated the encounter or what triggered the use of deadly force. Despite widespread speculation regarding intent, there has been no evidence produced indicating an intent to harm the officers. We are calling for a full and transparent investigation by both state and federal authorities.
Every peaceable Minnesotan has the right to keep and bear arms—including while attending protests, acting as observers, or exercising their First Amendment rights. These rights do not disappear when someone is lawfully armed, and they must be respected and protected at all times.
https://gunowners.mn/press-release-shooting-death-alex-pretti/
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I expect that the NRA will send millions of 2nd Amendment fundamentalist Americans pouring into the streets to protest the assassination of a lawfully carrying white man ...
@Piano-Dad
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Once again, not a case of a newbie agent at work. The guy who shot Pretti was CBP (I didn't know Minneapolis was on a border) agent with eight years experience.
From a former head of CBP:
He said last year that he does not think that DHS’ use of force policies are designed for protest or civil disturbance settings and does not believe that DHS agents have followed their own use of force standards.
A federal judge eventually found DHS officials' "widespread misrepresentations call into question everything" they claimed to be happening to operations in the Chicago area.
"The judges have listened to the declarations, they've listened to testimony, they've reviewed the videos, they've, judge after judge has come to this conclusion that these operations are clearly outside the normal practice of any law enforcement agency," Kerlikowske told the FOX 9 Investigators.
Despite numerous judicial rulings, Bovino has continued to claim his agents' actions are "exemplary."
He said the agent who repeatedly fired at a man on the ground Saturday morning has worked for Border Patrol for eight years and is well-trained.
"The officer has extensive training as a range safety officer and (is) a less-lethal training officer," he said.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/minneapolis-shooting-former-cbp-head-015952401.html
If he's an experienced CBP agent and he's doing this in full view of witnesses recording his actions, I can only imagine what he does at an actual border when no one is looking.
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A nearby resident who is a licensed pediatrician also submitted a sworn declaration, saying he observed much of the encounter from his apartment and went outside after hearing gunshots to try to render medical aid.
"At first, ICE agents wouldn't let me through. They repeatedly asked for my physician's license, which I obviously didn't have," the doctor states. "But none of the ICE agents who were near the victim were performing CPR, and I could tell that the victim was in critical condition."
The doctor said an agent eventually allowed him to assess the man, who was lying on his side and surrounded by federal officers.
"I was confused as to why the victim was on his side, because that is not standard practice when a victim has been shot," the doctor states. "Checking for a pulse and administering CPR is standard practice. Instead of doing either of those things, the ICE agents appeared to be counting his bullet wounds."
The doctor said he observed at least three gunshot wounds to the man’s back. After asking agents to turn him onto his back, he said he saw an additional gunshot wound to the upper left chest and another possible gunshot wound to the neck.
The doctor said he did not detect a pulse and began CPR until emergency medical crews arrived and took over.
https://www.aol.com/articles/witness-recounts-minnesota-shooting-doctor-084520407.html
When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier
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Overview of where things stand, including court filings by MN. And a statement from a woman who was standing five feet away.
From the doctor:
After returning home and being distraught, the doctor left their home once “tear gas began seeping into [their] apartment.“ This is how their declaration ended:
https://www.lawdork.com/p/the-ice-killing-of-alex-pretti-the
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The NRA dips its toe into the water.
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A nearby resident who is a licensed pediatrician also submitted a sworn declaration, saying he observed much of the encounter from his apartment and went outside after hearing gunshots to try to render medical aid.
"At first, ICE agents wouldn't let me through. They repeatedly asked for my physician's license, which I obviously didn't have," the doctor states. "But none of the ICE agents who were near the victim were performing CPR, and I could tell that the victim was in critical condition."
The doctor said an agent eventually allowed him to assess the man, who was lying on his side and surrounded by federal officers.
"I was confused as to why the victim was on his side, because that is not standard practice when a victim has been shot," the doctor states. "Checking for a pulse and administering CPR is standard practice. Instead of doing either of those things, the ICE agents appeared to be counting his bullet wounds."
The doctor said he observed at least three gunshot wounds to the man’s back. After asking agents to turn him onto his back, he said he saw an additional gunshot wound to the upper left chest and another possible gunshot wound to the neck.
The doctor said he did not detect a pulse and began CPR until emergency medical crews arrived and took over.
https://www.aol.com/articles/witness-recounts-minnesota-shooting-doctor-084520407.html
It's especially heartbreaking to read the account from the pediatrician.
And this:
@wtg said in "Minnesota has had it.":at least three gunshot wounds to the man’s back.
is infuriating.
from the commentary posted by @wtg in "Minnesota has had it.":
clearly outside the normal practice of any law enforcement agency
Yes. It ceased being legitimate law enforcement a long time ago.
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There is no statute of limitations on these kinds of killings. I would expect every thug to face justice at some point.
In fact, I will never vote for anyone who suggests that we let bygones be bygones in the name of restoring some false sense of normalcy.
