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"Minnesota has had it."

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    Daniel
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    #30

    Many critical facts remain unknown? Not really.

    'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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      Piano*Dad
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      They said that so that they could dance along the both-sides line for a while longer until the issue begins to fade.

      Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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        wtg
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        Once again, not a case of a newbie agent at work. The guy who shot Pretti was CBP (I didn't know Minneapolis was on a border) agent with eight years experience.

        From a former head of CBP:

        He said last year that he does not think that DHS’ use of force policies are designed for protest or civil disturbance settings and does not believe that DHS agents have followed their own use of force standards.

        A federal judge eventually found DHS officials' "widespread misrepresentations call into question everything" they claimed to be happening to operations in the Chicago area.

        "The judges have listened to the declarations, they've listened to testimony, they've reviewed the videos, they've, judge after judge has come to this conclusion that these operations are clearly outside the normal practice of any law enforcement agency," Kerlikowske told the FOX 9 Investigators.

        Despite numerous judicial rulings, Bovino has continued to claim his agents' actions are "exemplary."

        He said the agent who repeatedly fired at a man on the ground Saturday morning has worked for Border Patrol for eight years and is well-trained.

        "The officer has extensive training as a range safety officer and (is) a less-lethal training officer," he said.

        https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/minneapolis-shooting-former-cbp-head-015952401.html

        If he's an experienced CBP agent and he's doing this in full view of witnesses recording his actions, I can only imagine what he does at an actual border when no one is looking.

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          wtg
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          #33

          A nearby resident who is a licensed pediatrician also submitted a sworn declaration, saying he observed much of the encounter from his apartment and went outside after hearing gunshots to try to render medical aid.

          "At first, ICE agents wouldn't let me through. They repeatedly asked for my physician's license, which I obviously didn't have," the doctor states. "But none of the ICE agents who were near the victim were performing CPR, and I could tell that the victim was in critical condition."

          The doctor said an agent eventually allowed him to assess the man, who was lying on his side and surrounded by federal officers.

          "I was confused as to why the victim was on his side, because that is not standard practice when a victim has been shot," the doctor states. "Checking for a pulse and administering CPR is standard practice. Instead of doing either of those things, the ICE agents appeared to be counting his bullet wounds."

          The doctor said he observed at least three gunshot wounds to the man’s back. After asking agents to turn him onto his back, he said he saw an additional gunshot wound to the upper left chest and another possible gunshot wound to the neck.

          The doctor said he did not detect a pulse and began CPR until emergency medical crews arrived and took over.

          https://www.aol.com/articles/witness-recounts-minnesota-shooting-doctor-084520407.html

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            wtg
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            #34

            Overview of where things stand, including court filings by MN. And a statement from a woman who was standing five feet away.

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            From the doctor:

            After returning home and being distraught, the doctor left their home once “tear gas began seeping into [their] apartment.“ This is how their declaration ended:

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            https://www.lawdork.com/p/the-ice-killing-of-alex-pretti-the

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            • RontunerR Offline
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              Rontuner
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              #35

              Defund ICE?
              Abolish ICE?
              Deport ICE! Give them and all enablers the same amount of legal respect they have shown to those in the US.

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                wtg
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                #36

                The NRA dips its toe into the water.

                https://x.com/NRA/status/2015227627464728661

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                  A nearby resident who is a licensed pediatrician also submitted a sworn declaration, saying he observed much of the encounter from his apartment and went outside after hearing gunshots to try to render medical aid.

                  "At first, ICE agents wouldn't let me through. They repeatedly asked for my physician's license, which I obviously didn't have," the doctor states. "But none of the ICE agents who were near the victim were performing CPR, and I could tell that the victim was in critical condition."

                  The doctor said an agent eventually allowed him to assess the man, who was lying on his side and surrounded by federal officers.

                  "I was confused as to why the victim was on his side, because that is not standard practice when a victim has been shot," the doctor states. "Checking for a pulse and administering CPR is standard practice. Instead of doing either of those things, the ICE agents appeared to be counting his bullet wounds."

                  The doctor said he observed at least three gunshot wounds to the man’s back. After asking agents to turn him onto his back, he said he saw an additional gunshot wound to the upper left chest and another possible gunshot wound to the neck.

                  The doctor said he did not detect a pulse and began CPR until emergency medical crews arrived and took over.

                  https://www.aol.com/articles/witness-recounts-minnesota-shooting-doctor-084520407.html

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                  ShiroKuro
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                  #37

                  It's especially heartbreaking to read the account from the pediatrician.

                  And this:
                  @wtg said in "Minnesota has had it.":

                  at least three gunshot wounds to the man’s back.

                  is infuriating.

                  from the commentary posted by @wtg in "Minnesota has had it.":

                  clearly outside the normal practice of any law enforcement agency

                  Yes. It ceased being legitimate law enforcement a long time ago.

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                    Piano*Dad
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                    #38

                    There is no statute of limitations on these kinds of killings. I would expect every thug to face justice at some point.

                    In fact, I will never vote for anyone who suggests that we let bygones be bygones in the name of restoring some false sense of normalcy.

                    Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                      wtg
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                      #39

                      Minneapolis is a Second Amendment wake-up call

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/minneapolis-is-a-second-amendment-wake-up-call/ar-AA1UUnS9

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                        Daniel
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                        I did see a still photograph of the moment. It should be mass reproduced and plastered everywhere.

                        'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                          wtg
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                          #41

                          The "woman in the pink coat". A very powerful interview with Anderson Cooper. Worth 20 minutes of your time.

                          https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/stella-carlson-alex-pretti-witness-video

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                            wtg
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                            #42

                            CBP and ICE people at the scene, do you hear the bus coming? Stephen Miller is about to push you under it.

                            https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/politics/stephen-miller-alex-pretti-trump?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc&recs_exp=most-popular-article-end&tenant_id=popular.en

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                              Daniel
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                              Link to video

                              'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                                  Rontuner
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                                  https://www.huffpost.com/entry/combat-soldier-ice-minnesota-mercenaries_n_697a00a2e4b035e2a07a0a4a?origin=home-whats-happening-unit

                                  "Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara stated publicly that, in 2025, the Minneapolis Police Department recovered roughly 900 guns from the street and arrested hundreds of violent offenders — and did not kill a single person.

                                  Let that sit with you.

                                  If the Minneapolis Police Department didn’t kill anyone in a year of active policing, and my combat unit didn’t kill anyone in over a year of war, Minnesotans — and all Americans — are right to ask why ICE and the Border Patrol have killed two people in my state in two weeks.

                                  The answer is uncomfortable but unavoidable. Either this is their mission — or they are operating outside accountability."

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                                    wtg
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                                    #46

                                    Alex was involved in an incident with immigration agents 11 days before he was shot. Looks like he had his gun with him during this interaction.

                                    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/29/alex-pretti-shooting-11-days-before-federal-officers-clash

                                    For all the talk that he was looking to massacre agents, he never went for his weapon during either interaction. Not looking like a trigger-happy kind of guy.

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                                      Daniel
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                                      The Minneapolis police, unlike the police in NYC, according to protestors, are standing by and doing nothing to help people.

                                      You'd think the opposite if you listened to White House. Not that anyone here would do that.

                                      'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                                        Local reporting about the earlier incident.

                                        The earlier altercation occurred at E. 36th Street and Park Avenue in Minneapolis’ Powderhorn neighborhood — less than half a mile from the spot where an ICE officer shot Renee Good in her vehicle the week before.

                                        Shapiro, a Minneapolis-based corporate tax attorney, rushed to the area just before 10:30 a.m. after Signal group chats alerted him to ICE enforcement activity near his young son’s Spanish immersion day care.

                                        Shapiro said he witnessed several in the crowd of 15 to 20 people lobbing snowballs at agents. Then, he said, a bearded man positioned in the street — wearing a brown coat, black hat and sunglasses — proceeded to kick out the taillight of an agent’s SUV.

                                        Shapiro’s account matches events captured in a separate video posted to social media Jan. 28 by conservative influencer Nick Sortor, showing the encounter from a different angle. A firearm is visible on Pretti’s waistband.

                                        Shapiro’s recording begins seconds after Pretti kicks the vehicle, when he is seen flipping off the car full of federal agents. One beelines toward him and spins him to the ground. Other agents shoot pepper balls, toss smoke canisters and threaten the use of chemical irritants in an attempt to keep the angry crowd back.

                                        Three other officers pounce on Pretti, appearing to strike him while he’s restrained.

                                        The reaction to Pretti’s smashing of the taillight seemed overly aggressive, Shapiro later told the Star Tribune.

                                        “Is it grounds for getting out of a car after you’ve already packed up and decided that you were going to leave and then assault a person and harass a group of observers? Probably not,” Shapiro said, noting that Pretti did not appear to fight back, only attempt to flee.

                                        Eventually, Pretti wrestles out of his coat and runs away, rejoining the small group of protesters.

                                        The 2½-minute video ends with a caravan of federal vehicles leaving the scene as smoke billows in the intersection. Shapiro approaches Pretti, who he did not know, and asks if he’s OK.

                                        Pretti says that he is, before turning to the dispersing crowd. “Are we all OK? Are we all safe?” he calls out to the dozen or so bystanders who remain.

                                        The previous encounter, first reported by CNN, allegedly began after Pretti stopped his car while observing ICE activity in the neighborhood. He joined a throng of demonstrators who began shouting and blowing their whistles as agents chased several people on foot.

                                        CNN reported, citing an anonymous source, that claimed that Pretti suffered a broken rib after five agents tackled him and another leaned on his back about a week before his death. The story did not disclose when or where this allegedly happened.

                                        U.S Department of Homeland Security officials told CNN they have “no record of this incident.”

                                        Rewatching his earlier video with the knowledge that the man he met had died at the hands of government agents left him shaken. If it could happen to Pretti, he thought, it could happen to anyone.

                                        Yet, Shapiro wasn’t surprised to learn that Pretti had continued protesting.

                                        “People feel so adamantly about how wrong this is,” Shapiro said, referring to the Trump administration’s aggressive immigration crackdown.

                                        From the Minneapolis Star Tribune:

                                        https://archive.is/j87pV#selection-981.0-1029.219

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                                          Yeah, ICE knew who he was when they assassinated him.

                                          'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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