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  • RontunerR Offline
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    Signaling we've seen the last election for a while...

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    • NinaN Offline
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      Murkowski has no shame.

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        Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tenn.) said in a post on social media that he will introduce an amendment to the Senate bill that would delete all its text and replace it with the version passed by the House in May.

        One House Republican, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told Axios there are "well over 20" GOP lawmakers threatening to vote against the bill.

        https://www.axios.com/2025/07/01/mike-johnson-trump-big-beautiful-bill

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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        • NinaN Nina

          Murkowski has no shame.

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          @Nina said in It passed in the Senate:

          Murkowski has no shame.

          If not Murkowski, it would be some other Senwte Republican else being the 50th "yea."

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            Daniel.
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            Exactly.

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              Could someone briefly list what this will effect please.(obviously your medicare)

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                So much packed into this bill. Hard to be brief; it's called the "one big beautiful bill" for a reason.

                My biggest concern is the price tag. We keep spending way more money than we have. And this bill takes money from people who don't have much and gives it to people who do.

                https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/senate-gop-tax-bill-would-raise-budget-deficits-4-trillion-over-10-years-crfb

                And we are leaving a lot of people behind when it comes to medical care. Kaiser has a great summary of changes to a lot of programs.

                https://www.kff.org/tracking-the-medicaid-provisions-in-the-2025-budget-bill/

                CNN hits the highlights of how this will affect various groups:

                https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/01/politics/congress-senate-bill-tax-spending-trump-gop-explainer

                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                  So much packed into this bill. Hard to be brief; it's called the "one big beautiful bill" for a reason.

                  My biggest concern is the price tag. We keep spending way more money than we have. And this bill takes money from people who don't have much and gives it to people who do.

                  https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/senate-gop-tax-bill-would-raise-budget-deficits-4-trillion-over-10-years-crfb

                  And we are leaving a lot of people behind when it comes to medical care. Kaiser has a great summary of changes to a lot of programs.

                  https://www.kff.org/tracking-the-medicaid-provisions-in-the-2025-budget-bill/

                  CNN hits the highlights of how this will affect various groups:

                  https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/01/politics/congress-senate-bill-tax-spending-trump-gop-explainer

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                  @wtg said in It passed in the Senate:

                  We keep spending way more money than we have. And this bill takes money from people who don't have much and gives it to people who do.

                  Yeah, I would be quite OK with spending money we don't have on investments, like infrastructure, resource development, education, R&D, etc.

                  Unfortunately it looks like this bill takes on huge deficits to cut taxes for the very rich.

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                    That’s the whole purpose. Always was.

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                      A new absurdity in the bill:

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/02/upshot/republicans-food-aid-alaska.html

                      It goes like this:

                      • the intent was originally was to make the states that have higher error rates when it comes to administering the food stamp programs pay more -- supposedly this is to encourage states to "have skin in the game" to lower error rates when administering the food stamp programs.
                      • But to get Murkowski's vote, with Murkowski representing the state with the highest food stamp administration error rate, the Senate bill ended up adding a provision that exempts states whose food stamp error rates exceeding certain threshold from having to pay anything at all (at least for a while).
                      • so if the Senate bill ended comes to pass, the states with high error rates will be exempt from paying for the food stamps (at least for a while), while states with low-enough food error rates will have to pay something.
                      • in effect, this may end up incentivizing states to jack up their food stamp administration error rates (at least for a while) to avoid having to pay anything towards the their food stamp programs.

                      The modern GOP really sucks at governing.

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                        Copayments for Medicaid recipients.

                        How absurd.

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