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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    Where do we stop living on a credit card?

    “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams

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    • MikM Mik

      Where do we stop living on a credit card?

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      Steve Miller
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      @Mik

      Seems like this is only a problem when the wrong people make money.

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        Mik
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        Still, the hard question remains.. where DO we make cuts? Our current path is unsustainable.

        “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
        ― Douglas Adams

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          Steve Miller
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          Fair enough. My suggestions:

          Repeal the Trump tax cut
          Eliminate subsidies for oil companies
          Eliminate price supports for feed corn and soybeans
          Remove the cap on Social Security contributions
          Beef up enforcement at the IRS

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            Yep. As @Steve-Miller points out, there are lots of ways to make cuts without jeopardizing vulnerable people.

            Also re homeless, affordable housing etc., what about all the studies showing that subsidizing housing ends up costing less than having large populations of homeless?

            This country has the ability to take care of its weakest members, it just doesn’t have the right mindset. 😥

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              Rontuner
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              With all of the automation and AI taking over jobs the question that isn't getting asked goes something like this:

              How do we create a society where everyone has the opportunity to live comfortably when there aren't enough jobs to go around?

              Or are we coming to a "let them eat cake" breakpoint? That seems to be the Republican plan that is being acted out in Washington...

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                With all of the automation and AI taking over jobs the question that isn't getting asked goes something like this:

                How do we create a society where everyone has the opportunity to live comfortably when there aren't enough jobs to go around?

                Or are we coming to a "let them eat cake" breakpoint? That seems to be the Republican plan that is being acted out in Washington...

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                Steve Miller
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                @Rontuner

                Enter the Universal Basic income discussion.

                We’re going to need something like it in the fairly near future.

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                  Fair enough. My suggestions:

                  Repeal the Trump tax cut
                  Eliminate subsidies for oil companies
                  Eliminate price supports for feed corn and soybeans
                  Remove the cap on Social Security contributions
                  Beef up enforcement at the IRS

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                  @Steve-Miller said in This is what we need:

                  Fair enough. My suggestions:

                  Repeal the Trump tax cut
                  Eliminate subsidies for oil companies
                  Eliminate price supports for feed corn and soybeans
                  Remove the cap on Social Security contributions
                  Beef up enforcement at the IRS

                  Some good suggestions. Any idea how much we might save?

                  I’ll withhold judgement on the housing plan until I see details. I like the idea of block grants if they can work.

                  “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                  ― Douglas Adams

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                    Mik
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                    Interestingly enough, I will almost certainly be voting Democrat in the Ohio gubernatorial election. Both GOP candidates are horrible. The primary is next week and I’m hoping “Kill them both” is an option.

                    “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                    ― Douglas Adams

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                      Bernard
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                      I'm not against block grants taking the place of vouchers (unless someone wants to persuade me otherwise), ...

                      According to the paper’s sources, the administration is considering “cutting or canceling out the vouchers” and replacing them with a “more limited system of housing grants, perhaps sent to states.”

                      ... but "more limited" is troublesome.

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                        Steve Miller
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                        Sec 8 works, and I’m speaking as a landlord. This voucher thing is an unknown, and sending it to states like Ohio is not likely to help anyone.

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                          https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/05/01/mark-zuckerberg-funding-affordable-housing/amp/

                          Never liked him. Never trusted him.

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