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    Great!
  • Laughter is the best medicine

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  • Probably bots and spammers

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  • A bit of a drive

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    ShiroKuroS
    @CHAS oh dear, that must have been terrifying! I'm glad you're both ok!
  • Word association thread

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  • Bit of excitement in the neighborhood

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    @wtg wow!! That’s a lot of drama, and a lot of noise, to then still be able to have that morning coffee. I’m not confident we would have the same positive experience here!
  • House for sale

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    A lead roof? I’ve never heard of one. Class A roof specs sometimes call for lead flashings but a whole roof? Wow. Should last forever!
  • Economics of AI

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    I have read about tokens before, and one of the problems is that the definition of a token is pretty fluid (as far as I can tell) and not only is it inconsistent across platforms, it’s inconsistent within the same platform. So it’s not like character count or word count, where the user could monitor their token use with 100% accuracy. From @axtremus ’s article: Tokens represent a unit of output, either in text or image, from an LLM. For the Ask Sage tool, a single token equates to about 3.7 characters, according to documents viewed by WIRED From OpenAI (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/4936856-what-are-tokens-and-how-to-count-them) Spaces, punctuation, and partial words all contribute to token counts. This is how the API internally segments your text before generating a response. One thing that makes it particularly hard to monitor token usage is that the same amount of text could be interpreted as different amounts of tokens, depending on how it’s entered. At least, that’s according to what I’ve read, and the OpenAi article recommends to “break large text into smaller chunks” if you exceed your token limit. So what does a “chunk” mean? Does that mean that the same prompt content would be interpreted as fewer tokens if you entered it little by little, rather than all at once? It would seem so, but that doesn’t make sense to me.
  • Buy an iPhone will be more like leasing a car now?

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    It’s shocking how many people (and seemingly those who can least afford it) already behave this way. I’ve heard many people talk about how with their plan plan they “get to upgrade in one more year” or whatever. The implication being as soon as they’ve paid off one phone they “get to” buy another one. Having said that the component cost increase is quite real. Strange though because we generally expect consumer electronics to be relentlessly driven down in cost over time. I buy my phones outright from the Apple Store. Hopefully memory gets cheaper by the time I need to replace Mayla’s, she’s a bit of an instagram queen and needs the max memory on hers.
  • Think twice before booking a European river cruise

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    I’ve heard great things about AMA! We recently sailed Uniworld and now that I can compare two lines I have realized that all of the ones on that tier are fantastic but unique and which one is “best” is going to depend on what is important to each person. But all of them are fantastic! Which river are you sailing? I want to know all the things!
  • Best friends discover they are related

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  • Jackie and Shadow 2026

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    Jackie is sick, undergoing treatment. https://abc7.com/live-updates/big-bear-bald-eagle-jackie-latest-health-update-says-bird-received-successful-life-saving-blood-transfusion-remains-critical/19564788/
  • Haven't seen Daniel lately

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    Either way, I hope he’s ok.
  • What are you reading?

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    Got these this week: [image: 1784917186533-6867.jpg] [image: 1784917194286-6907-resized.jpg]
  • Reflections on Biden admin decisions re Gaza and Iran

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  • Smart TV mischief

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    I see even Speed Queen is going to electronic controls on some models, but they still have some with mechanical dials. Like this one: https://www.abt.com/Speed-Queen-Top-Load-Washer-3.2-Cu.-Ft.-in-White-AWN632SP116TW02/p/158384.html
  • Mildly Interesting - People

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    Chinese student displays 70 marathon medals at graduation after running to fund education https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/trending-china/article/3358968/chinese-student-displays-70-marathon-medals-graduation-after-running-fund-education [image: d19cd2aa-56c8-490f-985f-bdd4b455a858_5588690c.jpg]
  • The No Data Centers Pledge

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    AI bet goes awry: Oracle fires 21,000 employees Oracle laid off ~13% of its staff to fund a $300B computing deal with OpenAI. Now, a credit downgrade and $7B in required power grid guarantees put the massive project in jeopardy. https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/tech-and-start-ups/article-903442 On, Wisconsin!
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    "Trump Administration Drops Subpoena Demanding List of Jews From Penn" https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/23/us/eeoc-subpoena-penn-jewish-list.html
  • Meta-thread: Word association thread

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    I can't figure out how we got from Unagi to Lumbago, but it's cracking me up!