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    Great!
  • Word association thread

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    aerobics
  • Best friends discover they are related

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    Big_AlB
    It's probably fortunate they became friends rather than lovers. Big Al
  • A bit of a drive

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    Big_AlB
    Very glad to hear that you dodged that bullet. Did you do anything fun or pleasurable while you were in Philadelphia? Big Al
  • Scandinavia, The Baltics, and Iceland - traveller insight?

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    @CHAS said: Hope you have a great time and that you post pictures on your return. We were going there until Bob has some trouble. I’m sorry to hear that. I hope at some point you can revisit that plan. And you remind me I need to write up an Italy post with photos. I’ll try to get that done this week!
  • It's so hot in Japan, they invented a new name for it

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    @wtg They are being too nice. I use other words.
  • Laughter is the best medicine

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  • Think twice before booking a European river cruise

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    dolmansaxlilD
    I haven’t done an ocean cruise but we LOVE river! I really want to hear your impressions of AMA when you return as well. The good thing about the Rhône is that it is generally high rather than low so the current issues shouldn’t affect you!
  • Ax’s lame movie recos and cool YouTube picks

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    Link to video
  • Probably bots and spammers

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    wtgW
    @Jodi said: Klaus has done some housekeeping on the other forum because of that. Yea, they've had hundreds and hundreds of bogus accounts for years. When this was just the backup site the registration didn't require admin approval and we had a zillion spam accounts, too. I deleted them when we moved over here as the permanent WTF, and @axtremus changed registration to require approval. The only hiccup that I'm aware of is that I rejected @marchant twice, not realizing that it was Ballyhoo with a new name.
  • Bit of excitement in the neighborhood

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    @wtg wow!! That’s a lot of drama, and a lot of noise, to then still be able to have that morning coffee. I’m not confident we would have the same positive experience here!
  • House for sale

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    A lead roof? I’ve never heard of one. Class A roof specs sometimes call for lead flashings but a whole roof? Wow. Should last forever!
  • Economics of AI

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    I have read about tokens before, and one of the problems is that the definition of a token is pretty fluid (as far as I can tell) and not only is it inconsistent across platforms, it’s inconsistent within the same platform. So it’s not like character count or word count, where the user could monitor their token use with 100% accuracy. From @axtremus ’s article: Tokens represent a unit of output, either in text or image, from an LLM. For the Ask Sage tool, a single token equates to about 3.7 characters, according to documents viewed by WIRED From OpenAI (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/4936856-what-are-tokens-and-how-to-count-them) Spaces, punctuation, and partial words all contribute to token counts. This is how the API internally segments your text before generating a response. One thing that makes it particularly hard to monitor token usage is that the same amount of text could be interpreted as different amounts of tokens, depending on how it’s entered. At least, that’s according to what I’ve read, and the OpenAi article recommends to “break large text into smaller chunks” if you exceed your token limit. So what does a “chunk” mean? Does that mean that the same prompt content would be interpreted as fewer tokens if you entered it little by little, rather than all at once? It would seem so, but that doesn’t make sense to me.
  • Buy an iPhone will be more like leasing a car now?

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    It’s shocking how many people (and seemingly those who can least afford it) already behave this way. I’ve heard many people talk about how with their plan plan they “get to upgrade in one more year” or whatever. The implication being as soon as they’ve paid off one phone they “get to” buy another one. Having said that the component cost increase is quite real. Strange though because we generally expect consumer electronics to be relentlessly driven down in cost over time. I buy my phones outright from the Apple Store. Hopefully memory gets cheaper by the time I need to replace Mayla’s, she’s a bit of an instagram queen and needs the max memory on hers.
  • Jackie and Shadow 2026

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    wtgW
    Jackie is sick, undergoing treatment. https://abc7.com/live-updates/big-bear-bald-eagle-jackie-latest-health-update-says-bird-received-successful-life-saving-blood-transfusion-remains-critical/19564788/
  • Haven't seen Daniel lately

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    ShiroKuroS
    Either way, I hope he’s ok.
  • What are you reading?

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    Got these this week: [image: 1784917186533-6867.jpg] [image: 1784917194286-6907-resized.jpg]
  • Reflections on Biden admin decisions re Gaza and Iran

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  • Smart TV mischief

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    wtgW
    I see even Speed Queen is going to electronic controls on some models, but they still have some with mechanical dials. Like this one: https://www.abt.com/Speed-Queen-Top-Load-Washer-3.2-Cu.-Ft.-in-White-AWN632SP116TW02/p/158384.html
  • Mildly Interesting - People

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    Chinese student displays 70 marathon medals at graduation after running to fund education https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/trending-china/article/3358968/chinese-student-displays-70-marathon-medals-graduation-after-running-fund-education [image: d19cd2aa-56c8-490f-985f-bdd4b455a858_5588690c.jpg]