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  • Economics of AI

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    I have read about tokens before, and one of the problems is that the definition of a token is pretty fluid (as far as I can tell) and not only is it inconsistent across platforms, it’s inconsistent within the same platform. So it’s not like character count or word count, where the user could monitor their token use with 100% accuracy. From @axtremus ’s article: Tokens represent a unit of output, either in text or image, from an LLM. For the Ask Sage tool, a single token equates to about 3.7 characters, according to documents viewed by WIRED From OpenAI (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/4936856-what-are-tokens-and-how-to-count-them) Spaces, punctuation, and partial words all contribute to token counts. This is how the API internally segments your text before generating a response. One thing that makes it particularly hard to monitor token usage is that the same amount of text could be interpreted as different amounts of tokens, depending on how it’s entered. At least, that’s according to what I’ve read, and the OpenAi article recommends to “break large text into smaller chunks” if you exceed your token limit. So what does a “chunk” mean? Does that mean that the same prompt content would be interpreted as fewer tokens if you entered it little by little, rather than all at once? It would seem so, but that doesn’t make sense to me.
  • Buy an iPhone will be more like leasing a car now?

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    It’s shocking how many people (and seemingly those who can least afford it) already behave this way. I’ve heard many people talk about how with their plan plan they “get to upgrade in one more year” or whatever. The implication being as soon as they’ve paid off one phone they “get to” buy another one. Having said that the component cost increase is quite real. Strange though because we generally expect consumer electronics to be relentlessly driven down in cost over time. I buy my phones outright from the Apple Store. Hopefully memory gets cheaper by the time I need to replace Mayla’s, she’s a bit of an instagram queen and needs the max memory on hers.
  • Jackie and Shadow 2026

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    wtgW
    Jackie is sick, undergoing treatment. https://abc7.com/live-updates/big-bear-bald-eagle-jackie-latest-health-update-says-bird-received-successful-life-saving-blood-transfusion-remains-critical/19564788/
  • Haven't seen Daniel lately

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    ShiroKuroS
    Either way, I hope he’s ok.
  • What are you reading?

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    Got these this week: [image: 1784917186533-6867.jpg] [image: 1784917194286-6907-resized.jpg]
  • Reflections on Biden admin decisions re Gaza and Iran

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  • Smart TV mischief

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    wtgW
    I see even Speed Queen is going to electronic controls on some models, but they still have some with mechanical dials. Like this one: https://www.abt.com/Speed-Queen-Top-Load-Washer-3.2-Cu.-Ft.-in-White-AWN632SP116TW02/p/158384.html
  • The No Data Centers Pledge

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    wtgW
    AI bet goes awry: Oracle fires 21,000 employees Oracle laid off ~13% of its staff to fund a $300B computing deal with OpenAI. Now, a credit downgrade and $7B in required power grid guarantees put the massive project in jeopardy. https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/tech-and-start-ups/article-903442 On, Wisconsin!
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    "Trump Administration Drops Subpoena Demanding List of Jews From Penn" https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/23/us/eeoc-subpoena-penn-jewish-list.html
  • Meta-thread: Word association thread

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    ShiroKuroS
    I can't figure out how we got from Unagi to Lumbago, but it's cracking me up!
  • Mildly Interesting

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    Guess the piano piece from the first note. Starts easy https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1RDW7oREPT/
  • She left her corporate job…

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    DougGD
    it’s a bold to move to make a change into something more creative and fulfilling. Reminds me of the leap of faith I took to become a bank accountant…
  • William Shatner heading to Chicago

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  • Money, money. Who's got the money?

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  • The tariff clown car rolls on - Canada edition

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    @wtg said: About the tariffs on alcohol... https://theconversation.com/trumps-new-tariffs-give-ontario-and-quebec-the-perfect-excuse-to-sell-their-unsold-american-booze-287930 Anecdotally, folks in my area are fine with them putting US booze back on the shelves to placate the US, though most people say they wouldn’t buy it anyway. I’ve heard folks suggest that we should put it back on shelves but on the bottom shelf, which I think is a great gesture.
  • $2 and a dream, now available in the UK

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    1 in 292million ! Euro lottery is 1 in 140 million UK lottery is 1 in 70 million
  • France joins Australia re social media

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  • A good rant

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    @AndyD I highly recommend the one about playing the part of a Christmas elf. After watching that video I decided I do believe in Santa. Heck, I'll get the link for it, others might enjoy it as well... Link to video
  • Cycling as medical treatment

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    When it was listing everything he carried with him in his packs all o could think of was “and 4 extra batteries”. That’s a lot of weight. I’m sure the technology has improved a bit but when the boy and I rented e-bikes in Norway and Sweden they barely lasted 5-6 hours even with no extra weight.
  • Pest Control - sterile mosquito edition

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    RontunerR
    Sounds like an opportunity for unintended consequences...