Thoughts on portable electric heaters
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We have a woodburning fireplace that is original to the house. We had gas logs and a nice set of doors installed probably 20 years ago but we basically never used it. It sucks all the warm air from the house up the chimney. The hearth is floor level and we prefer something that has a raised hearth. And we did re-work the bookcases and the tile around the fireplace, but we weren't really happy with the way it all looked after the remodel but we just ignored it. We also finally realized that the mortar between the fire bricks is gone in lots of places, so a fire in the chimney is a real risk, so we stopped using it altogether. It was sort of a dead-feeling area in the living room.
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Costco has freestanding electric fireplaces and we finally found one that we liked and ordered it. It fits perfectly in front of the fireplace and in between the bookcases that flank it. We either have to cut down or build a custom mantel, as the one that comes with it is too wide to fit the available space. But that's not a big deal.
It doesn't have the mantel on it right now but you can get an idea of how it looks. Because it fills the entire space and sits up higher, it totally changes how the room looks and feels.
It has LED flames and you can even turn on the embers. Bunch of colors and you can adjust the intensity. It's amazing how cozy the space feels.
So here's my question for this thread....the unit also has a space heater. We only plan to use it with the LED "fire" which doesn't draw much current at all. The unit is rated at 1500W. Most portable units have two or three heat settings plus a thermostat to turn off the heater when the room reaches the desired temp, as @steve-miller explained.
This unit only has a thermostat with a temperature setting. Lowest setting is 71 and it goes up from there. There doesn't seem to be a way to select hi/med/lo. I'm kind of assuming that it's always running at 1500W and it only goes on/off based on what the thermostat is set for. Does that seem reasonable? I turned it on briefly to be sure that it does actually work, but turned it off before the thermostat kicked in and did it for me.
Here are the specs for the insert. When I turned it on I could see the quartz elements at the top of the firebox insert, and a fan went on.
https://www.realflame.com/landscape-vividflame-electric-firebox
@steve-miller - BTW, the instructions with fireplace insert simply say you need a 15A circuit. It even says it's preferable to have a dedicated circuit, but not a requirement. That surprised me, as I'm on the same page you are with respect to space heaters.
And of course they say if your breakers pop, well then you need to do something. We have the Ting gizmo, so it might catch a potential problem.
As I said, we don't plan to use it as a space heater, so this is mostly an academic exercise. If I did want to use it for heat, I would get our electrician in and have the circuit that this thing is on separated out and create a new 20A circuit so it could be used without having to be concerned about it.
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We have a woodburning fireplace that is original to the house. We had gas logs and a nice set of doors installed probably 20 years ago but we basically never used it. It sucks all the warm air from the house up the chimney. The hearth is floor level and we prefer something that has a raised hearth. And we did re-work the bookcases and the tile around the fireplace, but we weren't really happy with the way it all looked after the remodel but we just ignored it. We also finally realized that the mortar between the fire bricks is gone in lots of places, so a fire in the chimney is a real risk, so we stopped using it altogether. It was sort of a dead-feeling area in the living room.
Anyway...
Costco has freestanding electric fireplaces and we finally found one that we liked and ordered it. It fits perfectly in front of the fireplace and in between the bookcases that flank it. We either have to cut down or build a custom mantel, as the one that comes with it is too wide to fit the available space. But that's not a big deal.
It doesn't have the mantel on it right now but you can get an idea of how it looks. Because it fills the entire space and sits up higher, it totally changes how the room looks and feels.
It has LED flames and you can even turn on the embers. Bunch of colors and you can adjust the intensity. It's amazing how cozy the space feels.
So here's my question for this thread....the unit also has a space heater. We only plan to use it with the LED "fire" which doesn't draw much current at all. The unit is rated at 1500W. Most portable units have two or three heat settings plus a thermostat to turn off the heater when the room reaches the desired temp, as @steve-miller explained.
This unit only has a thermostat with a temperature setting. Lowest setting is 71 and it goes up from there. There doesn't seem to be a way to select hi/med/lo. I'm kind of assuming that it's always running at 1500W and it only goes on/off based on what the thermostat is set for. Does that seem reasonable? I turned it on briefly to be sure that it does actually work, but turned it off before the thermostat kicked in and did it for me.
Here are the specs for the insert. When I turned it on I could see the quartz elements at the top of the firebox insert, and a fan went on.
https://www.realflame.com/landscape-vividflame-electric-firebox
@steve-miller - BTW, the instructions with fireplace insert simply say you need a 15A circuit. It even says it's preferable to have a dedicated circuit, but not a requirement. That surprised me, as I'm on the same page you are with respect to space heaters.
And of course they say if your breakers pop, well then you need to do something. We have the Ting gizmo, so it might catch a potential problem.
As I said, we don't plan to use it as a space heater, so this is mostly an academic exercise. If I did want to use it for heat, I would get our electrician in and have the circuit that this thing is on separated out and create a new 20A circuit so it could be used without having to be concerned about it.
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It does, wonder what UK Costco is selling. Might be nice in our living room.
Our sitting room gas fireplace is an eclectic mess.
Queen Anne oak mantle, marble inset surround & hearth, pretty Victorian tiles, 1980's gas guzzling fire.
I'm just finishing upstairs carpets and the sitting room is next on our radar (at 37sq.m. on concrete I won't be laying the new carpet)Any ideas for the fireplace? Start again?
I fancy a plain stone mantle to complement the marble & tiles which we'll keep, and a black arched fake(electric) coal fireplace. -
Very nice!
I’ve seen those with and without hi-lo settings on them. If yours doesn’t have that feature it’s going to be running 1500 watts any time the heat is on.
Shouldn’t be an issue for occasional use, but keep an eye on the temperature at the receptacle.
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There are tons of these freestanding units in all types of designs. Some are designed to be used as TV stands and have storage in them, and others, like ours, are just supposed to look like a fireplace. For us it's a good way to cover up a fireplace that we can't use but to still have a bit of the fireplace-y ambiance that we like.
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We have an oil-filled DeLonghi (pictured a few posts up there) What do you think of leaving it plugged into the wall, even though turned off? They all recommend unplugging after use, but the only usable plug in this room is behind some heavy furniture, and it would be a pain to move that furniture every time. Anyway, so far no issues.
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Interesting. The place here I have my heart set on has an LED fireplace with choices of color for the fake flames. I didn't like the idea of it at first but now I think it would be great.
@andyd I guess I'll be the lone dissenter. I think everything is perfect except the Victorian tiles. I find the overall shape of each set jarring and would want only marble. I love everything else. I wouldn't care about the heat source. I think the mantle clock is exquisite. To each his own.
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BTW, I considered buying a small indoor propane heater but the price of the propane canisters ($50/ 6) combined with their duration (4 hrs on high per canister) made made the thought ridiculous.
We're in the depth of our cold season but it can't last another 3 or 4 weeks.
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