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Sunlight exposure - risks vs. benefits

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  • wtgW Offline
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    wtg
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    The health benefits of sunlight may outweigh the risk of skin cancer

    More sun might improve your heart and immune system. Just don’t get sunburnt

    From The Economist:

    https://archive.is/HkZf6

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      AndyD
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      I hide in the shadows and use factor 50 in summer, and go out in the sun as much as possible October to April.
      Wish I'd used sunglasses more when younger, only really started aged 50. Clint Eastwood was a bad role model

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        Bernard
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        I expose myself to the sun slowly in the spring so as to build a tan. Even then, I usually wear a long sleeve shirt and a hat when in the midday high summer sun.

        The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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          After watching Rob’s battle with skin cancer (including having to reconstruct his cheek/lip) I’m going to stick to my daily regime of sunscreen on all exposed skin, wearing a hat when I’m outside during peak sun periods, and staying in the shade whenever possible. Luckily for me I rarely burn (even back in the 80s when sunscreen wasn’t a thing). But I’m still very cautious (and Rob even more so).

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            I love bicycling, and my routine is to wear long sleeves and use sunscreen on exposed skin. Late in the day (low sun) I don’t bother. I have had one melanoma removed in my past, successfully. I need mineral sunscreen, as my skin now gets irritated by the standard stuff. And I am a convert to the roll-ons — so much less mess.

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              Thanks for this link @wtg . I definitely don’t get enough sun, and since my foot problems, even less so because all my classes are in the building where my office is and I am currently moving around much less than I normally would be.

              Because I had a broken bone without a fall or other accident, my doc recommended a bone density scan, which I just had last week, and I have now been diagnosed with osteopenia (which is a precursor to osteoporosis). I’m still waiting for the consult with my doctor after this scan, so I don’t have much information, but bone health, vitamin D and calcium are now on my radar.

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                After watching Rob’s battle with skin cancer (including having to reconstruct his cheek/lip) I’m going to stick to my daily regime of sunscreen on all exposed skin, wearing a hat when I’m outside during peak sun periods, and staying in the shade whenever possible. Luckily for me I rarely burn (even back in the 80s when sunscreen wasn’t a thing). But I’m still very cautious (and Rob even more so).

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                @dolmansaxlil said in Sunlight exposure - risks vs. benefits:

                After watching Rob’s battle with skin cancer (including having to reconstruct his cheek/lip)

                I don’t think I knew about this, was it recent? Is he ok now?

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                  Luckily nothing has ever spread beyond skin, so he has only had to undergo surgical treatments. His last major bout was a Mohs surgery two years ago to remove a chunk that had been removed several times before. They seem to have gotten it all from that section now. The surgery to reconstruct his cheek was a long time ago - maybe 10 years? They took a triangular piece a few inches across out of his lip and cheek, moved some of his inner cheek out to reconstruct his lip, and sewed him back up. His doctor was incredible! The scar is quite noticeable - I’m sure people wonder what happened to him when they first meet him - but the initial assessment was that he would lose half of his upper lip and they wouldn’t be able to reconstruct it. The doctor changed his mind during the surgery and did the reconstruction. Now he just has little bits blasted off about every 6 months - always on his face. His dermatologist and plastic surgeon’s preference would be that he lived in a dark cave 😜

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                    Thanks for this link @wtg . I definitely don’t get enough sun, and since my foot problems, even less so because all my classes are in the building where my office is and I am currently moving around much less than I normally would be.

                    Because I had a broken bone without a fall or other accident, my doc recommended a bone density scan, which I just had last week, and I have now been diagnosed with osteopenia (which is a precursor to osteoporosis). I’m still waiting for the consult with my doctor after this scan, so I don’t have much information, but bone health, vitamin D and calcium are now on my radar.

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                    @ShiroKuro My mom has severe osteoporosis. It’s no joke. She spontaneously broke her spine (while literally sitting on the couch) a few years ago, which is how she was diagnosed. They did the standard treatments to try to reverse it and increase her bone density, but they were ineffective. She is now on Teriparatide, which she will inject daily for two years. Do everything you can now to reverse it! I take a daily vitamin D supplement as well as calcium. I’m also trying to incorporate more impact exercises to strengthen my bones.

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                      Luckily nothing has ever spread beyond skin, so he has only had to undergo surgical treatments. His last major bout was a Mohs surgery two years ago to remove a chunk that had been removed several times before. They seem to have gotten it all from that section now. The surgery to reconstruct his cheek was a long time ago - maybe 10 years? They took a triangular piece a few inches across out of his lip and cheek, moved some of his inner cheek out to reconstruct his lip, and sewed him back up. His doctor was incredible! The scar is quite noticeable - I’m sure people wonder what happened to him when they first meet him - but the initial assessment was that he would lose half of his upper lip and they wouldn’t be able to reconstruct it. The doctor changed his mind during the surgery and did the reconstruction. Now he just has little bits blasted off about every 6 months - always on his face. His dermatologist and plastic surgeon’s preference would be that he lived in a dark cave 😜

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                      @dolmansaxlil Re Rob's experience, wow! That must have been very painful, and scary for both of you! I'm glad it never spread and that it's well controlled now!

                      Re your mother, I'm sorry to hear about that, it sounds awful!

                      @dolmansaxlil said in Sunlight exposure - risks vs. benefits:

                      I take a daily vitamin D supplement as well as calcium.

                      This was the first thing I did. I take a calcium pill and vitamin D at dinner, and multivitamin with those and others, at lunch.

                      I’m also trying to incorporate more impact exercises to strengthen my bones.

                      This is my problem right here. I have a problem with my foot (bone deformity, tendonopathy, bursitis) and I can hardly walk at present. Presumably the broken bone has healed, but my activity level plummeted and I can't yet bring it back up. I ride my exercise bike daily, but that's not weight bearing, so although it's good to do, it doesn't help my bone density.

                      I am doing PT and am really hoping to avoid having surgery on my foot, for one reason, it would mean possibly 12 weeks of zero weight bearing, which is the last thing I want.

                      Anyway, we'll see how it goes....

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                        Steve Miller
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                        Wow, Dol! Thats quite a trial! Sorry Rob had to go through it and glad to hear it’s working out.

                        Shiro - yikes! Sounds like a perfect storm. Hope you can get everything resolved quickly!

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                          I bet dermatologists don’t hold their conventions in beach towns. Deep forest maybe.

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                            @ShiroKuro I think that type of situation happens to a lot of people. Hopefully your foot issues are resolved soon and you can get back to your active self! Maybe talk to your PT or doctor and see if there are yoga positions you can try that won’t irritate your foot. There are some studies that show yoga can increase bone density, and a slow flow may be more manageable for you than a jarring higher impact activity.

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                              Thanks @Steve-Miller
                              @dolmansaxlil , I don’t think I can do any standing yoga at present, and that’s what is needed for bone health, weight-bearing that is. I’ve been dealing with this for almost a year now, and been doing PT since January. My local doc (a general ortho) thinks I’m not going to get better without surgery, so he has referred me to an ankle and foot surgeon, who I will see in about two weeks. But my PTist had me start a new activity about three weeks ago, and it feels like something is actually improving, so now maybe there’s hope. We’ll see. 🤞

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                                We've added a vibration plate to the circuit in our apartment. Mixed data on the effect targeting bone density, but even sitting on it or doing a kneeling plank is possible if you have foot issues. We got one of the Lifepro models which has worked well for us. MrsTuner has bone density issues and is doing what she can to improve.

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                                  We've added a vibration plate to the circuit in our apartment. Mixed data on the effect targeting bone density, but even sitting on it or doing a kneeling plank is possible if you have foot issues. We got one of the Lifepro models which has worked well for us. MrsTuner has bone density issues and is doing what she can to improve.

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                                  @Rontuner said in Sunlight exposure - risks vs. benefits:

                                  a vibration plate

                                  I had never heard of this before, but a quick google search suggests it could be helpful so I'm going to look into it more. I need to check with my doctor to see if it's ok, but as I get better, if it's just standing and doesn't involve moving the feet while on it, it might be something I can do in the near future.

                                  BTW do you have a model you would recommend?

                                  to the circuit in our apartment

                                  Does this mean you have exercise equipment in your basement or something else?

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                                    The vibration plate and a rebounder (Bellicon - lymph movement and more bone density for MrsTuner) are the only real "equipment" in the apartment, but we've both had recoveries from surgeries and rounds of physical therapies over the years. MrsTuner was very active in yoga and pilates until her recent shoulder replacement, so learned that there is a lot that can be accomplished in the room it takes to roll out a yoga mat or tube for fascia rolling (she swears by the melt method - has video membership). Lots of resistance bands/tubes with a little anchor to hook in a door gives any of the weight training that we a currently practicing.

                                    There are vibration plate models with support handles if balance is an issue, but we got one of the Lifepro models that went for around $200?? I can look up the model if you want!

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                                    • RontunerR Rontuner

                                      The vibration plate and a rebounder (Bellicon - lymph movement and more bone density for MrsTuner) are the only real "equipment" in the apartment, but we've both had recoveries from surgeries and rounds of physical therapies over the years. MrsTuner was very active in yoga and pilates until her recent shoulder replacement, so learned that there is a lot that can be accomplished in the room it takes to roll out a yoga mat or tube for fascia rolling (she swears by the melt method - has video membership). Lots of resistance bands/tubes with a little anchor to hook in a door gives any of the weight training that we a currently practicing.

                                      There are vibration plate models with support handles if balance is an issue, but we got one of the Lifepro models that went for around $200?? I can look up the model if you want!

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                                      @Rontuner said in Sunlight exposure - risks vs. benefits:

                                      There are vibration plate models with support handles if balance is an issue, but we got one of the Lifepro models that went for around $200?? I can look up the model if you want!

                                      Yes, that would be most appreciated!

                                      So do you just stand on it and try to maintain your balance while it vibrates? For how long? Every day?

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                                      • RontunerR Rontuner

                                        The vibration plate and a rebounder (Bellicon - lymph movement and more bone density for MrsTuner) are the only real "equipment" in the apartment, but we've both had recoveries from surgeries and rounds of physical therapies over the years. MrsTuner was very active in yoga and pilates until her recent shoulder replacement, so learned that there is a lot that can be accomplished in the room it takes to roll out a yoga mat or tube for fascia rolling (she swears by the melt method - has video membership). Lots of resistance bands/tubes with a little anchor to hook in a door gives any of the weight training that we a currently practicing.

                                        There are vibration plate models with support handles if balance is an issue, but we got one of the Lifepro models that went for around $200?? I can look up the model if you want!

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                                        @Rontuner I found this one:

                                        https://www.amazon.com/LifePro-Vibration-Plate-Exercise-Machine-Weight-Loss/dp/B0794BXVY4/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=8wZFI&content-id=amzn1.sym.4efc43db-939e-4a80-abaf-50c6a6b8c631%3Aamzn1.symc.5a16118f-86f0-44cd-8e3e-6c5f82df43d0&pf_rd_p=4efc43db-939e-4a80-abaf-50c6a6b8c631&pf_rd_r=M6166W0K6JXEG8Z7YHC5&pd_rd_wg=XRBE0&pd_rd_r=b1b71b02-a322-4665-bcfd-038e6c24a5c6&ref_=pd_hp_d_atf_ci_mcx_mr_ca_hp_atf_d&th=1

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                                          And this article:

                                          https://www.healthline.com/health/vibration-plate-for-osteoporosis

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