Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

WTF-Beta

  1. Home
  2. Categories
  3. Off Key - General Discussion
  4. Sunlight exposure - risks vs. benefits

Sunlight exposure - risks vs. benefits

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Off Key - General Discussion
26 Posts 11 Posters 342 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • R Offline
    R Offline
    RealPlayer
    wrote on last edited by RealPlayer
    #5

    I love bicycling, and my routine is to wear long sleeves and use sunscreen on exposed skin. Late in the day (low sun) I don’t bother. I have had one melanoma removed in my past, successfully. I need mineral sunscreen, as my skin now gets irritated by the standard stuff. And I am a convert to the roll-ons — so much less mess.

    1 Reply Last reply
    • ShiroKuroS Offline
      ShiroKuroS Offline
      ShiroKuro
      wrote on last edited by
      #6

      Thanks for this link @wtg . I definitely don’t get enough sun, and since my foot problems, even less so because all my classes are in the building where my office is and I am currently moving around much less than I normally would be.

      Because I had a broken bone without a fall or other accident, my doc recommended a bone density scan, which I just had last week, and I have now been diagnosed with osteopenia (which is a precursor to osteoporosis). I’m still waiting for the consult with my doctor after this scan, so I don’t have much information, but bone health, vitamin D and calcium are now on my radar.

      dolmansaxlilD 1 Reply Last reply
      • dolmansaxlilD dolmansaxlil

        After watching Rob’s battle with skin cancer (including having to reconstruct his cheek/lip) I’m going to stick to my daily regime of sunscreen on all exposed skin, wearing a hat when I’m outside during peak sun periods, and staying in the shade whenever possible. Luckily for me I rarely burn (even back in the 80s when sunscreen wasn’t a thing). But I’m still very cautious (and Rob even more so).

        ShiroKuroS Offline
        ShiroKuroS Offline
        ShiroKuro
        wrote on last edited by
        #7

        @dolmansaxlil said in Sunlight exposure - risks vs. benefits:

        After watching Rob’s battle with skin cancer (including having to reconstruct his cheek/lip)

        I don’t think I knew about this, was it recent? Is he ok now?

        1 Reply Last reply
        • dolmansaxlilD Offline
          dolmansaxlilD Offline
          dolmansaxlil
          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          Luckily nothing has ever spread beyond skin, so he has only had to undergo surgical treatments. His last major bout was a Mohs surgery two years ago to remove a chunk that had been removed several times before. They seem to have gotten it all from that section now. The surgery to reconstruct his cheek was a long time ago - maybe 10 years? They took a triangular piece a few inches across out of his lip and cheek, moved some of his inner cheek out to reconstruct his lip, and sewed him back up. His doctor was incredible! The scar is quite noticeable - I’m sure people wonder what happened to him when they first meet him - but the initial assessment was that he would lose half of his upper lip and they wouldn’t be able to reconstruct it. The doctor changed his mind during the surgery and did the reconstruction. Now he just has little bits blasted off about every 6 months - always on his face. His dermatologist and plastic surgeon’s preference would be that he lived in a dark cave 😜

          ShiroKuroS 1 Reply Last reply
          • ShiroKuroS ShiroKuro

            Thanks for this link @wtg . I definitely don’t get enough sun, and since my foot problems, even less so because all my classes are in the building where my office is and I am currently moving around much less than I normally would be.

            Because I had a broken bone without a fall or other accident, my doc recommended a bone density scan, which I just had last week, and I have now been diagnosed with osteopenia (which is a precursor to osteoporosis). I’m still waiting for the consult with my doctor after this scan, so I don’t have much information, but bone health, vitamin D and calcium are now on my radar.

            dolmansaxlilD Offline
            dolmansaxlilD Offline
            dolmansaxlil
            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            @ShiroKuro My mom has severe osteoporosis. It’s no joke. She spontaneously broke her spine (while literally sitting on the couch) a few years ago, which is how she was diagnosed. They did the standard treatments to try to reverse it and increase her bone density, but they were ineffective. She is now on Teriparatide, which she will inject daily for two years. Do everything you can now to reverse it! I take a daily vitamin D supplement as well as calcium. I’m also trying to incorporate more impact exercises to strengthen my bones.

            1 Reply Last reply
            • dolmansaxlilD dolmansaxlil

              Luckily nothing has ever spread beyond skin, so he has only had to undergo surgical treatments. His last major bout was a Mohs surgery two years ago to remove a chunk that had been removed several times before. They seem to have gotten it all from that section now. The surgery to reconstruct his cheek was a long time ago - maybe 10 years? They took a triangular piece a few inches across out of his lip and cheek, moved some of his inner cheek out to reconstruct his lip, and sewed him back up. His doctor was incredible! The scar is quite noticeable - I’m sure people wonder what happened to him when they first meet him - but the initial assessment was that he would lose half of his upper lip and they wouldn’t be able to reconstruct it. The doctor changed his mind during the surgery and did the reconstruction. Now he just has little bits blasted off about every 6 months - always on his face. His dermatologist and plastic surgeon’s preference would be that he lived in a dark cave 😜

              ShiroKuroS Offline
              ShiroKuroS Offline
              ShiroKuro
              wrote on last edited by
              #10

              @dolmansaxlil Re Rob's experience, wow! That must have been very painful, and scary for both of you! I'm glad it never spread and that it's well controlled now!

              Re your mother, I'm sorry to hear about that, it sounds awful!

              @dolmansaxlil said in Sunlight exposure - risks vs. benefits:

              I take a daily vitamin D supplement as well as calcium.

              This was the first thing I did. I take a calcium pill and vitamin D at dinner, and multivitamin with those and others, at lunch.

              I’m also trying to incorporate more impact exercises to strengthen my bones.

              This is my problem right here. I have a problem with my foot (bone deformity, tendonopathy, bursitis) and I can hardly walk at present. Presumably the broken bone has healed, but my activity level plummeted and I can't yet bring it back up. I ride my exercise bike daily, but that's not weight bearing, so although it's good to do, it doesn't help my bone density.

              I am doing PT and am really hoping to avoid having surgery on my foot, for one reason, it would mean possibly 12 weeks of zero weight bearing, which is the last thing I want.

              Anyway, we'll see how it goes....

              1 Reply Last reply
              • S Offline
                S Offline
                Steve Miller
                wrote on last edited by
                #11

                Wow, Dol! Thats quite a trial! Sorry Rob had to go through it and glad to hear it’s working out.

                Shiro - yikes! Sounds like a perfect storm. Hope you can get everything resolved quickly!

                1 Reply Last reply
                • R Offline
                  R Offline
                  RealPlayer
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #12

                  I bet dermatologists don’t hold their conventions in beach towns. Deep forest maybe.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  • dolmansaxlilD Offline
                    dolmansaxlilD Offline
                    dolmansaxlil
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    @ShiroKuro I think that type of situation happens to a lot of people. Hopefully your foot issues are resolved soon and you can get back to your active self! Maybe talk to your PT or doctor and see if there are yoga positions you can try that won’t irritate your foot. There are some studies that show yoga can increase bone density, and a slow flow may be more manageable for you than a jarring higher impact activity.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    • ShiroKuroS Offline
                      ShiroKuroS Offline
                      ShiroKuro
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14

                      Thanks @Steve-Miller
                      @dolmansaxlil , I don’t think I can do any standing yoga at present, and that’s what is needed for bone health, weight-bearing that is. I’ve been dealing with this for almost a year now, and been doing PT since January. My local doc (a general ortho) thinks I’m not going to get better without surgery, so he has referred me to an ankle and foot surgeon, who I will see in about two weeks. But my PTist had me start a new activity about three weeks ago, and it feels like something is actually improving, so now maybe there’s hope. We’ll see. 🤞

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      • RontunerR Offline
                        RontunerR Offline
                        Rontuner
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #15

                        We've added a vibration plate to the circuit in our apartment. Mixed data on the effect targeting bone density, but even sitting on it or doing a kneeling plank is possible if you have foot issues. We got one of the Lifepro models which has worked well for us. MrsTuner has bone density issues and is doing what she can to improve.

                        ShiroKuroS 1 Reply Last reply
                        • RontunerR Rontuner

                          We've added a vibration plate to the circuit in our apartment. Mixed data on the effect targeting bone density, but even sitting on it or doing a kneeling plank is possible if you have foot issues. We got one of the Lifepro models which has worked well for us. MrsTuner has bone density issues and is doing what she can to improve.

                          ShiroKuroS Offline
                          ShiroKuroS Offline
                          ShiroKuro
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #16

                          @Rontuner said in Sunlight exposure - risks vs. benefits:

                          a vibration plate

                          I had never heard of this before, but a quick google search suggests it could be helpful so I'm going to look into it more. I need to check with my doctor to see if it's ok, but as I get better, if it's just standing and doesn't involve moving the feet while on it, it might be something I can do in the near future.

                          BTW do you have a model you would recommend?

                          to the circuit in our apartment

                          Does this mean you have exercise equipment in your basement or something else?

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          • RontunerR Offline
                            RontunerR Offline
                            Rontuner
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            The vibration plate and a rebounder (Bellicon - lymph movement and more bone density for MrsTuner) are the only real "equipment" in the apartment, but we've both had recoveries from surgeries and rounds of physical therapies over the years. MrsTuner was very active in yoga and pilates until her recent shoulder replacement, so learned that there is a lot that can be accomplished in the room it takes to roll out a yoga mat or tube for fascia rolling (she swears by the melt method - has video membership). Lots of resistance bands/tubes with a little anchor to hook in a door gives any of the weight training that we a currently practicing.

                            There are vibration plate models with support handles if balance is an issue, but we got one of the Lifepro models that went for around $200?? I can look up the model if you want!

                            ShiroKuroS 2 Replies Last reply
                            👍
                            • RontunerR Rontuner

                              The vibration plate and a rebounder (Bellicon - lymph movement and more bone density for MrsTuner) are the only real "equipment" in the apartment, but we've both had recoveries from surgeries and rounds of physical therapies over the years. MrsTuner was very active in yoga and pilates until her recent shoulder replacement, so learned that there is a lot that can be accomplished in the room it takes to roll out a yoga mat or tube for fascia rolling (she swears by the melt method - has video membership). Lots of resistance bands/tubes with a little anchor to hook in a door gives any of the weight training that we a currently practicing.

                              There are vibration plate models with support handles if balance is an issue, but we got one of the Lifepro models that went for around $200?? I can look up the model if you want!

                              ShiroKuroS Offline
                              ShiroKuroS Offline
                              ShiroKuro
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              @Rontuner said in Sunlight exposure - risks vs. benefits:

                              There are vibration plate models with support handles if balance is an issue, but we got one of the Lifepro models that went for around $200?? I can look up the model if you want!

                              Yes, that would be most appreciated!

                              So do you just stand on it and try to maintain your balance while it vibrates? For how long? Every day?

                              RontunerR 1 Reply Last reply
                              • RontunerR Rontuner

                                The vibration plate and a rebounder (Bellicon - lymph movement and more bone density for MrsTuner) are the only real "equipment" in the apartment, but we've both had recoveries from surgeries and rounds of physical therapies over the years. MrsTuner was very active in yoga and pilates until her recent shoulder replacement, so learned that there is a lot that can be accomplished in the room it takes to roll out a yoga mat or tube for fascia rolling (she swears by the melt method - has video membership). Lots of resistance bands/tubes with a little anchor to hook in a door gives any of the weight training that we a currently practicing.

                                There are vibration plate models with support handles if balance is an issue, but we got one of the Lifepro models that went for around $200?? I can look up the model if you want!

                                ShiroKuroS Offline
                                ShiroKuroS Offline
                                ShiroKuro
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #19

                                @Rontuner I found this one:

                                https://www.amazon.com/LifePro-Vibration-Plate-Exercise-Machine-Weight-Loss/dp/B0794BXVY4/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=8wZFI&content-id=amzn1.sym.4efc43db-939e-4a80-abaf-50c6a6b8c631%3Aamzn1.symc.5a16118f-86f0-44cd-8e3e-6c5f82df43d0&pf_rd_p=4efc43db-939e-4a80-abaf-50c6a6b8c631&pf_rd_r=M6166W0K6JXEG8Z7YHC5&pd_rd_wg=XRBE0&pd_rd_r=b1b71b02-a322-4665-bcfd-038e6c24a5c6&ref_=pd_hp_d_atf_ci_mcx_mr_ca_hp_atf_d&th=1

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                • ShiroKuroS Offline
                                  ShiroKuroS Offline
                                  ShiroKuro
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #20

                                  And this article:

                                  https://www.healthline.com/health/vibration-plate-for-osteoporosis

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  • dolmansaxlilD Offline
                                    dolmansaxlilD Offline
                                    dolmansaxlil
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #21

                                    Shiro I have a Sperax brand walking pad that is also a vibration plate. While I haven’t used the vibration feature myself Rob did tonnes of research before we bought it and it is very well reviewed (and relatively inexpensive).

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    • ShiroKuroS ShiroKuro

                                      @Rontuner said in Sunlight exposure - risks vs. benefits:

                                      There are vibration plate models with support handles if balance is an issue, but we got one of the Lifepro models that went for around $200?? I can look up the model if you want!

                                      Yes, that would be most appreciated!

                                      So do you just stand on it and try to maintain your balance while it vibrates? For how long? Every day?

                                      RontunerR Offline
                                      RontunerR Offline
                                      Rontuner
                                      wrote on last edited by Rontuner
                                      #22

                                      @ShiroKuro said in Sunlight exposure - risks vs. benefits:

                                      @Rontuner said in Sunlight exposure - risks vs. benefits:

                                      There are vibration plate models with support handles if balance is an issue, but we got one of the Lifepro models that went for around $200?? I can look up the model if you want!

                                      Yes, that would be most appreciated!

                                      So do you just stand on it and try to maintain your balance while it vibrates? For how long? Every day?

                                      It's really up to you. The vibration speed is up to you and it doesn't move very much so it doesn't seem a challenge to us to maintain balance. Squats, twists and any upper body things you may do standing. Even just sitting on it is supposed to be helpful. There are also step up, step down types of things, and more advanced challenges but it sounded like those aren't right for you? Also planks with either hands, knees or feet on platform. Probably lots to find online. Maybe 3x/week?

                                      I think this is the one I purchased: https://lifeprofitness.com/products/hovert-3d-vibration-plate-machine

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      • Q Offline
                                        Q Offline
                                        Qaanaaq-Qaalaaq
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #23

                                        Instead of buying a vibration plate machine: Do you belong to a health club? They might have one. Mine does. It’s a Power Plate machine and it costs about $10,000 because the club needs a commercial quality machine that would hold up to constant usage by people all day long. The Power Plate has two user selections: frequency/amplitude and time. Frequency is how fast the plate vibrates and amplitude is how much distance the plate travels. I don’t know how much therapeutic value the machine provides but to me, the machine is great to use after a workout.

                                        Frequency/amplitude on the machine’s control panel can be set from 1 (slowest) to 8 (fastest). Set it to the maximum of 8 and the vibration can make your teeth chatter.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        • A Offline
                                          A Offline
                                          Amanda
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #24

                                          ShiroKiro - identified with your problem as described. It started right after I came to from the spinal op (something called "toeing out" which is getting worse and worse. In a way no surgeon so far has been able to figure out, the whole lower left limb (I figure it's like the old song goes - "hip bones connected to the knee bone, knee bones connected to..." etc. The scoliosis
                                          and spinal deformity which necessitated the surgery, left me very off kilter - center of gravity is just NOT as it should be and with time, all the moving parts on that side are twisting the others so right now, my left knee has gotten quite bad (also collapsing under me suddenly which puts me at constant fall risk).

                                          I want to have the left knee replaced like the right, but I can't figure out how I could rehab it (requires tons of bending so the healing comes out right, and my back is like the tin man, so what then?)

                                          Drives me crazy that insurance and the age of specialization, force me to make appointments with three - four different surgeons, each separately separately (hip, knee, foot and ankle - and, of course, spine) when it's clearly a contiguous problem affecting all three/four parts!

                                          WHAT IN THE HELLERONI AM I SUPPOSED TO DO TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON (AND - DARE I SAY IT? - FIX IT, OR AT LEAST IMPROVE IT??)

                                          Meanwhile, I'm constantly tripping over my own feet thanks to tendonitis, extreme pez planus (I used to think flat foot was kind of a joke diagnosis!), and foot drop on that same side. Now the left foot is becoming deformed from all the pronation - the bone actually seems to have changed shape.

                                          Meanwhile (what I'd intended to write about) about the bone density. I take a monthly pill to hopefully improve it (Actonel - there's a stronger one given by injection which supposedly remineralizes the bones to a degree). And the exercise I rely on for the recommended weight bearing, is a stair stepper.

                                          You can hold on to the handrails to adjust how much you want to rely on your arms to rely on the stairs (different levels of speed and other adjustments).
                                          There are different kinds, but all gyms have them. I actually got a fancy model from Craigslist - it was one or two hundred miles away but by great good luck, it happened to be on the route to my spinal surgeon so my son managed JUST managed to fit it in his RAV (bending it a teensy bit).

                                          (Funny digression - asking the owner why he was getting rid of it - he said sheepishly he hadn't checked the height it raised him to, and the ceiling of his basement gym was too low. He showed us, and sure enough it would have partly decapitated him had he tried to use it! His loss, my gain (and a lesson on precautions one needs to take when buying exercise equipment!.)

                                          You spoke of the difficult recuperation from foot surgery but evidently you aren't at risk of the one which SCARES me the mosts, from undertaking it - - those gargantuan heavy boots they require. They do a number on my spine. The one I had to wear after an ankle fracture, caused me so much back pain, I had to get PT to try to relieve it! It was far worse than the ankle discomfort.

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          Powered by NodeBB | Contributors
                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups