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    Daniel.
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    @Bernard Yes, I feel the same way, and am also encouraged by what happened in NYC.

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      ACA subsidices eliminated.

      So, basically the ACA overturned.

      'Big Beautiful Bill': Higher healthcare premiums for Obamacare https://share.google/5ARmA5e1XCQWER8c2

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        Trump’s Medicaid cuts are coming for rural Americans: ‘It’s going to have to hit them first’

        Experts worry the tax-and-spending bill will gut healthcare and hospitals, especially in states like North Carolina

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/04/rural-americans-medicaid-cuts-trump-bill

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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          The part I don't understand is why the protests have been negligible when the last time he was going to gut healthcare the protests were massive.

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            Steve Miller
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            Because this time the folks affected are actually in favor of it.

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              Rural southwest Nebraska clinic closes, blaming expected Medicaid cuts

              https://www.klkntv.com/rural-southwest-nebraska-clinic-closes-blaming-expected-medicaid-cuts/

              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                Because this time the folks affected are actually in favor of it.

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                Daniel.
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                @Steve-Miller said in It passed in the Senate:

                Because this time the folks affected are actually in favor of it.

                Yes. I see now. You're right.

                How messed up.

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                  There were billionaires asked to be taxed more before. I suppose we are seeing the up side now, that there are also Medicaid recipients wanting benefit cuts.

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                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2025/07/03/trump-tax-bill-china-artificial-intelligence-energy/

                    China to win the AI arms race ... the argument goes that because the bill cuts clean/renewable energy subsidies, that will lead to the U.S. developing 344 Gigawatts of new electricity generation capacity over the next ten years, handicapping the American AI industry, ceding the win to China that is taking the "all of the above" approach to energy development and adding new electricity generation capacity like crazy.

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                      HuffPo also rounded up its own list flip-floppers, legislators who complained loudly and publicly about the bill then ended up voting for it anyway:

                      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tax-bill-flip-flop_n_6866c11ae4b0bde15485959a

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                        Considering how swiftly things turned around--one minute the House didn't have the votes, the next minute they did--you have to wonder what exactly Trump did or said to twist their arms. It must have been pretty intimidating. He's a mob boss, so maybe they feared for their lives?

                        The loss of Medicaid funding is getting a lot of press, but what really scares me is the unbelievable infusion of cash into ICE. Our country is becoming unrecognizable. We're becoming a place where people are disappeared because of their political views. I have started asking myself every day if I need to wipe clean my internet presence entirely. And every day, so far, I decide that I am going to keep speaking out no matter what.

                        Today it was reported that a Mexican immigrant was picked up by local police and ICE in our small town. It was a case of mistaken identity, but then ICE decided they want him anyway. Unbelievably, our mayor--who is himself a Liberian refugee--after he went down to the jail to find out what was going on, told reporters: "What are you going to do? Times have changed." Unreal and infuriating.

                        There's a local public protest at noon tomorrow. I'm worried that we're going to start having the kind of abductions here in Helena that have been in the news in many other parts of the country.

                        Why? Just why? The guy they took is a father of four young children, works a steady job, is married to an American citizen.

                        And how soon until they come after people like me--American citizens who are outspoken about this lawless administration? It seems to me that isn't so far off.

                        fear is the thief of dreams

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