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Piano placement - Almost there!

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    CHAS
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    That speaker is a great idea.
    I am considering a Schimmel vertical. The 5'11" grand I had was too much.
    The action on my Kawai Hybrid is too stiff. I do love to play with headphones. My place is on the path people take to walk along the river and I my stage fright is bad enough that I don't like blasting the world. I think that grand could be heard in on both coasts.

    “I’m at an age when remembering something right away is as good as an orgasm.”—Gloria Steinem to Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Wiser Than Me

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      ShiroKuro
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      The piano is in! Yay!! I only played it just enough to check all the keys so I don’t have a sense of how it sounds yet. We’re exhausted from moving, so I’ll check it out tmrw. But here are some photos.

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        Rontuner
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        congrats - hope you get many hours of enjoyment!

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          AdagioM
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          Exactly right! Looks like it’s quite at home there. Is there another chair (or something) on the right side of the second picture?

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            wtg
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            It looks great.

            Hope the entire move went well. I'm sure you are thrilled to finally be in your new home. Congratulations!

            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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              Big_Al
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              It looks good. I hope it also sounds great.

              Big Al

              Money seems to buy the most happiness when you give it away.

              Why does everything have to be so complicated, all in the name of convenience. -ShiroKuro

              A lifetime of experience will change a person. If it doesn't, then you're already dead inside. -MarkJ

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                Jodi
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                That looks great!

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                  wtg
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                  Was it the first placement you tried, or the end result of a bunch of different attempts?

                  When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                  • AdagioMA AdagioM

                    Exactly right! Looks like it’s quite at home there. Is there another chair (or something) on the right side of the second picture?

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                    ShiroKuro
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                    @AdagioM said in Piano placement - Almost there!:

                    Exactly right! Looks like it’s quite at home there. Is there another chair (or something) on the right side of the second picture?

                    AdagioM, I think what you’re seeing was boxes — which I have now emptied! I unpacked all my music books today 😊

                    Here are a few more pics:

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                    ETA: For the record, that shelf is not all of my music books. There’s a shelf full of music books behind the piano and another in my home office 😅

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                    • wtgW wtg

                      Was it the first placement you tried, or the end result of a bunch of different attempts?

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                      @wtg said in Piano placement - Almost there!:

                      Was it the first placement you tried, or the end result of a bunch of different attempts?

                      WTG, basically the first I tried. I was pretty confident that this placement would be the best option. But also, I was not confident in the movers and I wanted them to get done with the piano rather than have them move the piano around so I could experiment. If the piano was not on a rug it might have been easier…

                      I’m actually going to write a separate thread about the piano movers. Let’s just say I was not impressed 😑

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                        CHAS
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                        Glad you got it moved. Hope you love it in that spot.
                        Want to see it with the lid up.
                        One can never have too many piano books.

                        “I’m at an age when remembering something right away is as good as an orgasm.”—Gloria Steinem to Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Wiser Than Me

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                          ShiroKuro
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                          Well, with all the unpacking, I haven't had much time to play yet, but I think it's a little loud and a little harsh right now. I can't tell yet if that will be resolved by tuning (and adding some art and things to the walls)... Or if we'll have to reposition it.... I'll be sure to report back!

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                            ShiroKuro
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                            I've played my piano in its new home for maybe three days in a row now. It's a little on the loud side, but I think it sounds ok where it is. There are a few more things in the room now, and I'll add art to the walls as well, so all of that should help as well.

                            But it really needs to be tuned, so I scheduled an appointment for next Wednesday with a new tuner. He was the head piano technician here at the school of music until he retired and now he tunes independently part time. I got a good feeling on the phone when we were discussing the challenges I've had with the piano and its most recent tuning which I didn't like (too shimmery). He said he would tune it for me and then stick around while I played so we can talk about how it sounds, and whether it needs to be voiced.

                            I'll give an update after his tuning! 🤞

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                              I've played my piano in its new home for maybe three days in a row now. It's a little on the loud side, but I think it sounds ok where it is. There are a few more things in the room now, and I'll add art to the walls as well, so all of that should help as well.

                              But it really needs to be tuned, so I scheduled an appointment for next Wednesday with a new tuner. He was the head piano technician here at the school of music until he retired and now he tunes independently part time. I got a good feeling on the phone when we were discussing the challenges I've had with the piano and its most recent tuning which I didn't like (too shimmery). He said he would tune it for me and then stick around while I played so we can talk about how it sounds, and whether it needs to be voiced.

                              I'll give an update after his tuning! 🤞

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                              CHAS
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                              @ShiroKuro
                              Hope the tuning goes well.

                              “I’m at an age when remembering something right away is as good as an orgasm.”—Gloria Steinem to Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Wiser Than Me

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                                ShiroKuro
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                                Thank you!

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                                  Lisa
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                                  I've been thinking about your room and the fact that you aren't loving the sound of the piano. Your room already has some good acoustical qualities (like its non-rectangular shape) but I think because the whole downstairs is open and all hard flooring, the sound is definitely going to be more overwhelming than what you're used to.

                                  Before you do anything drastic like move the piano or voice the hammers, I'd try making some basic acoustic panels -- something like this, made from the 2" insulation type stuff you can get at home depot and covered in some kind of pretty fabric, would make a huge difference in the room. You can use command strips to experiment with the best place to hang them. I actually think if you used shapes and colors that mimic the square design of the rug, it could look like an amazing and very intentional design element while also taming the piano's sound a LOT.

                                  Here's some instructions on how to make them: https://bettersoundproofing.com/diy-acoustic-panels/

                                  And here (hopefully, if I did it right) are some photos to show you what I mean:

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                                  How-to-Build-Your-Own-Acoustic-Panels.jpg

                                  Incidentally, depending on what you make them out of, they can also double as corkboards so you can tack concert bills, photos, etc. to them if you want more of a casual office look.

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                                    ShiroKuro
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                                    Ooh, interesting! Thank you!

                                    Re the material, does it need to be that insulation material? Could it be just foam pads, and then covered with some nice fabric?

                                    I'm assuming the point is that, it needs to not be framed artwork with glass fronts, since that will just be more reflective. And I'm guessing that just a fabric wall hanging wouldn't suffice because the thickness of the foam pad is probably a key piece of the equation, right?

                                    Ok, wait, I'll go read that article you linked. 😅

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                                      Steve Miller
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                                      The most available material to make these out of will be acoustic ceiling (T-bar ceiling) tiles. You can buy them individually in a lot of places.

                                      The STC rating is what to look for. The higher the better.

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                                        Steve Miller
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                                        Piano looks great! I think you’ll like having the light come in over your shoulders.

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                                          Piano looks great! I think you’ll like having the light come in over your shoulders.

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                                          ShiroKuro
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                                          Thanks Steve, I'll check out acoustic ceiling tiles as well.

                                          @Steve-Miller said in Piano placement - Almost there!:

                                          Piano looks great! I think you’ll like having the light come in over your shoulders.

                                          Thank you!! I love having those windows there, and I love where/how I sit at the piano, I can look left out the window, or I can look forward into the living room. 🙂

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