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  • A AndyD

    Kettles, good grief, what a can of worms.
    Britain, tea drinkers of something like 40billion cups annually do not manufacture a single electric kettle!

    Nearest non plastic electric kettle that's also not made in China appears to be (no not french or german...)
    Italian.

    I'm tempted to get a traditional small hob kettle.

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    #24

    @AndyD I know. I finally settled for a Chinese made (mostly) glass electric kettle a couple of years ago when I retired my Simplex. The Chefman does have a black plastic lid that water condenses on and drips back down into the kettle, probably not a good thing.

    I came close to incinerating the Simplex when I put water on to boil and then popped out to the back yard to take care of some gardening task or another. I'd be out there a little longer than expected and suddenly realize that the kettle was boiling dry. After the third near-miss I decided a kettle with auto-shutoff was probably a good idea. I still have the Simplex in the basement. Maybe I'll put it back to work, at least for the winter months when I'm mostly inside...

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      I suppose hob kettles ideally need to whistle.

      My replacement choices for our black plastic cylinder:

      https://www.globalkitchenjapan.com/products/ikenaga-cast-iron-contemporary-design-round-tetsubin-kettle

      https://ottonifabbrica.com/en/3-kettles
      (in cherry red)

      Who knew where a spatula thread could lead!

      Ventosa viri restabit

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        That testubin is very handsome!

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          AdagioM
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          #27

          Parchment papers don’t list their ingredients, so I can’t tell if the Kroger paper I’m using is going to kill me. But I don’t use it often.

          I do have a couple of Silpat silicone baking sheets; I could start using them more. They never feel quite clean, though, even after soapy Dawn dishwashing.

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            Daniel
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            #28

            I believe all these materials and surfaces are dangerous as well as eating and drinking from anything made of plastic.

            My Dr. was talking with me about this once and said-- "We all have so much stuff in us."

            I think we were talking about radioactive substances used in medical testing.

            I'd like to be but I'm not purist on this topic. I don't like plastic containers because they're near impossible to hand wash. On the other hand, if I want to drink water or cold tea in a plastic bottle then I do it.

            Some synthetic material spatulas in my home have have been actually burned.

            This is when I make an executive decision and put them in the garage.

            When in doubt throw it out.

            'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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              https://arstechnica.com/health/2024/12/huge-math-error-corrected-in-black-plastic-study-authors-say-it-doesnt-matter/

              The "black spatula" study's authors made a mistake and left out a zero, their results were off by an order of magnitude. The "black spatula" is still bad, but not as bad as originally portrayed.

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                wtg
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                oopsies....

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                  #31

                  Yes, they multiplied 70 x 6,000 and got 42,000.

                  This is even worse than the paper that a bunch of us got retracted from a major dermatology journal.

                  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7373684/#:~:text=To the Editor%3A Recent observations,hospitalized for severe COVID-19.

                  The authors boldly claimed (based on simple correlations) that baldness raised the likelihood of severe Covid. They didn't bother to control for age in their regression. A bunch of us on Twitter raised a ruckus and the journal had to put a retraction notice on the paper, saying the result was "preliminary."

                  I didn't throw out my black plastic cookware, by the way.

                  Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                  • Piano*DadP Piano*Dad

                    Yes, they multiplied 70 x 6,000 and got 42,000.

                    This is even worse than the paper that a bunch of us got retracted from a major dermatology journal.

                    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7373684/#:~:text=To the Editor%3A Recent observations,hospitalized for severe COVID-19.

                    The authors boldly claimed (based on simple correlations) that baldness raised the likelihood of severe Covid. They didn't bother to control for age in their regression. A bunch of us on Twitter raised a ruckus and the journal had to put a retraction notice on the paper, saying the result was "preliminary."

                    I didn't throw out my black plastic cookware, by the way.

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                    @Piano-Dad said in Throw out your black spatula:

                    I didn't throw out my black plastic cookware, by the way.

                    Neither did I.

                    When the popular media started reporting on the study, I tried to read the study in the journal but hit a paywall. I had a sneaking suspicion it wasn't the fiasco it was being made out to be. The article @Axtremus posted did a great job of summarizing the study methodology and results, much better than anything I'd read previously. After reading the AT article this morning, I was underwhelmed by the original results. Add this correction....meh....

                    My friend tossed all her utensils immediately after reading the news articles a few weeks ago. Her response this morning after reading the Ars Technica article:

                    Oh my. And I threw away and replaced all with silicone ones that spot badly in dishwasher and need to be washed by hand. Drives me crazy. I was just complaining about this last night.

                    Geeze

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                      #33

                      We didn’t throw anything out either. Fortunately.

                      Btw @wtg if you ever want a paywalled article from an academic journal article, let me know. Often I can get them thru my uni affiliation and I’d be happy to download them for you!

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                        #34

                        I guess Janet got wind of all this. A new set of silicone utensils arrived today. Surely this portends they will be found to be far worse.

                        “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                        ― Douglas Adams

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                          We only have one black spatula. I’m sure it’s worth no more than 99 cents. I will not mind chucking it and buying a non-black one for 99 cents.

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