This can’t be true.
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wrote on 14 Dec 2024, 23:47 last edited by Steve Miller
Somebody explain to me how this isn’t true - please!
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/13/politics/joe-biden-commutations-pennsylvania-illinois/index.html
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wrote on 15 Dec 2024, 01:26 last edited by
Oh good grief. Why?
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wrote on 15 Dec 2024, 03:24 last edited by
Nope. It’s true.
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wrote on 15 Dec 2024, 03:24 last edited by
Jesus.
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wrote on 15 Dec 2024, 16:12 last edited by
Klobuchar was just on Face The Nation throwing Biden under the bus on all his pardons, including Hunter.
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wrote on 15 Dec 2024, 16:12 last edited by
Dementia?
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wrote on 15 Dec 2024, 18:55 last edited by
@CHAS said in This can’t be true.:
Dementia?
It occurred to me that he may have felt like, since he pardoned Hunter, he needed to pardon a whole bunch more?? Like a weird guilt thing?
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wrote on 15 Dec 2024, 22:22 last edited by
I don't think Joe is big on guilt.
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wrote on 15 Dec 2024, 23:05 last edited by
Sadly enough, it appears to be an accident. Nobody vetted the list.
Inexcusable.
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Sadly enough, it appears to be an accident. Nobody vetted the list.
Inexcusable.
wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 11:25 last edited by@Steve-Miller said in This can’t be true.:
Sadly enough, it appears to be an accident. Nobody vetted the list.
Inexcusable.
Exactly, it is inexcusable.
And so, so stupid.
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wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 15:38 last edited by
Stupid is a good explanation. The pardons provide cover for Trump. Whatever Trump does with pardons can now be partially justified by Biden's actions. It will be interesting to read some of tell-all stories that come out after Biden leaves office. Both parties need a new generation of leaders - maybe even skip a generation.
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wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 16:43 last edited by
It's worse than stupid. It's careless.
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wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 17:52 last edited by
Whatever Trump does with pardons can now be partially justified by Biden's actions.
I think we have to get out of this lowering of standards mentality, the "the other guy did it, so we can do it too" frame of mind. Neither side has had a particularly good track record for taking the moral high ground, but yes I agree, Teh Donald doesn't need any encouragement. He's as unrestrained as anyone.
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wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 17:54 last edited by
As for the pardon debacle...hard to believe it happened. I'm deeply disappointed. And frustrated.
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Whatever Trump does with pardons can now be partially justified by Biden's actions.
I think we have to get out of this lowering of standards mentality, the "the other guy did it, so we can do it too" frame of mind. Neither side has had a particularly good track record for taking the moral high ground, but yes I agree, Teh Donald doesn't need any encouragement. He's as unrestrained as anyone.
wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 18:07 last edited by@wtg said in This can’t be true.:
Whatever Trump does with pardons can now be partially justified by Biden's actions.
I think we have to get out of this lowering of standards mentality, the "the other guy did it, so we can do it too" frame of mind. Neither side has had a particularly good track record for taking the moral high ground, but yes I agree, Teh Donald doesn't need any encouragement. He's as unrestrained as anyone.
Yes. Sooner or later someone has the be the adult in the room.
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Whatever Trump does with pardons can now be partially justified by Biden's actions.
I think we have to get out of this lowering of standards mentality, the "the other guy did it, so we can do it too" frame of mind. Neither side has had a particularly good track record for taking the moral high ground, but yes I agree, Teh Donald doesn't need any encouragement. He's as unrestrained as anyone.
wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 20:22 last edited by@wtg said in This can’t be true.:
I think we have to get out of this lowering of standards mentality, the "the other guy did it, so we can do it too" frame of mind
I agree with you 100%.
I just don't think anyone in the right position has the stomach to make it happen.
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wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 21:28 last edited by
Fetterman's looking promising there. He seems unafraid to say the emperor is naked. The irony is not lost given his sartorial splendor.