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    Steve Miller
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    Looks like it’s in pretty good shape!

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2383-N-Park-Blvd-Cleveland-Heights-OH-44106/33659263_zpid/

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      Some of it is magnificent. The kitchens and baths are a travesty.

      I see it's been up on the market for a while and it looks like at least one sale fell through. Am guessing there is some fatal flaw....

      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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        Ah, the last gasp of American Romanesque. So many college buildings from the late 19th and early 20th centuries are in that style.

        It does seem exceptionally cheap, unless there is some hidden 300K flaw somewhere. It has been updated, of course, but geez, that kitchen. It's gonna need a 50K makeover.

        Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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          Ah, the last gasp of American Romanesque. So many college buildings from the late 19th and early 20th centuries are in that style.

          It does seem exceptionally cheap, unless there is some hidden 300K flaw somewhere. It has been updated, of course, but geez, that kitchen. It's gonna need a 50K makeover.

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          Steve Miller
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          @Piano-Dad

          Depending on what has already been done, I’d say you’ll need some $300K to set it to rights. Upside is it generates some $2K per month in rental income from the carriage house.

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            Property taxes are about $15K annually. If you look on Google maps the setting is quite amazing, across the street from a long greenway park.

            “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
            ― Douglas Adams

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              Fix it up and you could have a really high end B&B or AirBNB.

              “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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                Wow, just wow. I do wonder about the "fatal flaw" because that seems like an enormous house for the price. I suspect the heating bills are pretty stiff and I don't know anything about the surrounding neighborhood. I'm not sure what people see as necessary updates. I'm curious about how it sells.

                Did anyone notice the piano all by itself in the foyer?

                Big Al

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                  Ah, the last gasp of American Romanesque. So many college buildings from the late 19th and early 20th centuries are in that style.

                  It does seem exceptionally cheap, unless there is some hidden 300K flaw somewhere. It has been updated, of course, but geez, that kitchen. It's gonna need a 50K makeover.

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                  @Piano-Dad said in A nice little castle in Cleveland:

                  So many college buildings from the late 19th and early 20th centuries are in that style.

                  Yep, it looks like a lot of our classroom buildings, except our buildings, and the grounds around them, are better maintained

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                    Steve Miller
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                    The neighborhood is nice and getting nicer. The park across the street is very nice indeed.

                    Schools don’t rate highly for whatever reason - lots of Cleveland Clinic employees send their kids there and I’d expect them to be better Property taxes are really high - which is why we didn’t settle in Cuyahoga County.

                    But my guess is that it got hammered in the property inspection. Guaranteed it needs rewiring and re plumbing -supply and waste. There is no air conditioning - something not historically necessary in CLE that has changed with climate change. I’ll be surprised if it does’t have mold, asbestos, rot, or all three. The roof is suspect, basement is too. Never mind the windows.

                    People buy vintage houses and restore them all the time and the results can be spectacular. This house, though, is so big it’s going to take a very particular type of buyer.

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                      Baronial. And I don't mean that as a compliment. Apparently it's a challenge to furnish. And the heating bills are a nightmare, I'm guessing. Now, if there were stable...

                      fear is the thief of dreams

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                        Not sure about the heating bills. It’s a gas fired boiler and radiator system and gas is dirt cheap here. The weather has been absurdly mild for the last several years.

                        But I’m sure insulation and modern windows would be welcome.

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                          It looks like a set from a Kubrick film. The interior especially does not have a peaceful energy.

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                            The neighborhood is nice and getting nicer. The park across the street is very nice indeed.

                            Schools don’t rate highly for whatever reason - lots of Cleveland Clinic employees send their kids there and I’d expect them to be better Property taxes are really high - which is why we didn’t settle in Cuyahoga County.

                            But my guess is that it got hammered in the property inspection. Guaranteed it needs rewiring and re plumbing -supply and waste. There is no air conditioning - something not historically necessary in CLE that has changed with climate change. I’ll be surprised if it does’t have mold, asbestos, rot, or all three. The roof is suspect, basement is too. Never mind the windows.

                            People buy vintage houses and restore them all the time and the results can be spectacular. This house, though, is so big it’s going to take a very particular type of buyer.

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                            @Steve-Miller said in A nice little castle in Cleveland:

                            But my guess is that it got hammered in the property inspection. Guaranteed it needs rewiring and re plumbing -supply and waste. There is no air conditioning - something not historically necessary in CLE that has changed with climate change. I’ll be surprised if it does’t have mold, asbestos, rot, or all three. The roof is suspect, basement is too. Never mind the windows.

                            Sounds about right. The lack of AC alone would be a deal breaker for me, but it’s probably all the other issues that would end up being super, super expensive. And time consuming. And without guarantee of results.

                            It reminds me of when people talking about buying an old piano and having it restored. You don’t really know how it’s going to turn out until it’s finished. And even though it’s expensive, with an old piano, in a worst case scenario, you o could have it hauled off to the dump at the end of things didn’t go well.

                            With trying to restore an old house, that’s not an option!

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                              Someone will come along and see the magic. It's a great residential neighborhood. Maybe one of the Kelce brothers will do it. They were raised in CH, so that house is likely an icon to them.

                              “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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                                If one has a solid account at Little Greene and a good budget it could shine.

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