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  • wtgW
    wtgW
    wtg
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    #14

    Apparently they have identified and fixed the problem. Ground stop has been lifted, as of 8:15 ET.

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    • wtgW
      wtgW
      wtg
      wrote last edited by wtg
      #15

      Press conference with Duffy (Transportation) and Mullin (DHS). Mullin said that the FAA was patching some new stuff in to the existing system and it overwhelmed the old portions of the system. Not sure what he's talking about, but that's what he said.

      The President (who is a builder - Mullin's comment) says they need $50 billion to build a completely new system because this patching stuff in doesn't work.

      Oy.

      edit: CNN on what was actually said:

      Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy urged Congress to give “emergency funding” and approve $50 billion dollars to revamp the air traffic control system, increasing a previous ask for funding of more than $30 billion.

      “I’ve asked, the president’s asked for $30 billion. I want $50 billion,” Duffy said while briefing the press at the White House tonight.

      “What’s more important than having an air traffic control system that actually works?” Duffy continued. “And so the president said, ‘You know what? Let’s finish this job. New hardware, new software, new telecommunication.’”

      Duffy and the Department of Transportation announced a plan in 2025 to build a new air traffic control system by 2028 that would cost roughly $31.5 billion. More than $12 billion of that funding was secured through the passage of President Donald Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

      “We are building in that 12 and a half billion dollars. That portion of the bill will be done by the time President Trump leaves office. We are moving at a speed that has never been seen before with regard to the FAA,” Duffy said. “But that’s a partial funding.”

      Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy said old air traffic control technology and routers overloaded with data were to blame for the nationwide ground stop today.

      “What we have is an incredibly old air traffic control system,” Duffy said at a news conference tonight. “The president, for the last year, has been asking Congress to fully fund a full build of a brand new air traffic control system.”

      “Our routers actually got overloaded with data, and… they started to give us inconsistency in the data from those routers. And because of that, we shut the system down,” he added.

      Duffy said some routers had been replaced during his tenure, but the old hardware went down.

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      • wtgW wtg

        More on SMART,

        https://mashable.com/tech/faa-smart-ai-tool-nationwide-groundstop

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        B
        Bernard
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        #16

        @wtg What a coincidence that "SMART" was expanded to all control centers just a few days ago. Uh-huh.

        The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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          Daniel
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          #17

          Pathetic. This is what you get in a privatized world. Enjoy.

          'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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          • AxtremusA
            AxtremusA
            Axtremus
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            #18

            Not entirely. That’s also what you get when you keep electing governments that doesn’t fund infrastructure development and maintenance adequately.

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              jon-nyc
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              #19

              Wow. My sister is scheduled to fly tonight from Seattle to JFK and it looks like the flight is going to happen.

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              • J jon-nyc

                Wow. My sister is scheduled to fly tonight from Seattle to JFK and it looks like the flight is going to happen.

                ShiroKuroS
                ShiroKuroS
                ShiroKuro
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                #20

                @jon-nyc said:

                Wow. My sister is scheduled to fly tonight from Seattle to JFK and it looks like the flight is going to happen.

                Wow! Lucky her!

                @mik hopefully your flights on Tuesday won’t be impacted!

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                • AdagioMA
                  AdagioMA
                  AdagioM
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                  Our kids were in the air on the way home from PHX when I heard about this. They landed 30 minutes later. Whew!

                  I can see this could cause a cascading pile of problems. If planes can’t leave, it’s hard to have more landing at those airports.

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                  • AdagioMA AdagioM

                    Our kids were in the air on the way home from PHX when I heard about this. They landed 30 minutes later. Whew!

                    I can see this could cause a cascading pile of problems. If planes can’t leave, it’s hard to have more landing at those airports.

                    ShiroKuroS
                    ShiroKuroS
                    ShiroKuro
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                    @AdagioM yikes, glad they were able to land!

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      Not entirely. That’s also what you get when you keep electing governments that doesn’t fund infrastructure development and maintenance adequately.

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                      Daniel
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                      @Axtremus said:

                      Not entirely. That’s also what you get when you keep electing governments that doesn’t fund infrastructure development and maintenance adequately.

                      You're making my point for me. Governments aren't funding public infrastructure. They're selling it to the highest bidder.

                      'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                      • B Bernard

                        @wtg What a coincidence that "SMART" was expanded to all control centers just a few days ago. Uh-huh.

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                        Daniel
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                        @Bernard said:

                        @wtg What a coincidence that "SMART" was expanded to all control centers just a few days ago. Uh-huh.

                        Really.

                        'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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