Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

WTF-Beta

  1. Home
  2. Categories
  3. Off Key - General Discussion
  4. Narrower Piano Keys

Narrower Piano Keys

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Off Key - General Discussion
11 Posts 6 Posters 182 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • R RealPlayer

    A classical pianist I know has written an illuminating essay about her experience with a narrow piano keyboard. But I can’t find an easy way to link to it. However, if you are on Facebook it’s easy to find it. Just look up Heather O’Donnell. I met her in Europe some years ago.

    There’s a German company that’s making these keyboards. An octave measures 6 inches instead of the standard 6.5. A godsend for smaller hands.

    The company itself calls it Sirius 6.0, but I haven’t found a website in English.

    ShiroKuroS
    ShiroKuroS
    ShiroKuro
    wrote on last edited by ShiroKuro
    #2

    @RealPlayer you were probably looking at the FB page for this group:

    PIANISTS FOR ALTERNATIVELY SIZED KEYBOARDS
    https://paskpiano.org/

    Maybe this:
    https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1C3jUD6KYr/?mibextid=wwXIfr

    I have always wanted to play a 6.0 keyboard, but I’ve never had the chance. But I’ve read enough about it to think it makes a lot of sense to have the option.

    1 Reply Last reply
    • RontunerR
      RontunerR
      Rontuner
      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      On one of the college and university technician forums, I remember one tech writing about how they had a duplicate narrow keyboard made for one of the performance pianos. Voiced and regulated as close to the original, so they could quickly be swapped out in case there were performers or students that preferred the size. They may have also had some practice pianos with the narrower ones, I just can't remember...

      ShiroKuroS 1 Reply Last reply
      • RontunerR Rontuner

        On one of the college and university technician forums, I remember one tech writing about how they had a duplicate narrow keyboard made for one of the performance pianos. Voiced and regulated as close to the original, so they could quickly be swapped out in case there were performers or students that preferred the size. They may have also had some practice pianos with the narrower ones, I just can't remember...

        ShiroKuroS
        ShiroKuroS
        ShiroKuro
        wrote on last edited by
        #4

        @Rontuner said:

        Voiced and regulated as close to the original, so they could quickly be swapped out

        Yes, I've read that this isn't that difficult to do. I think the only real problem is making and fitting the actual keyboard, well, the only problem is that it's expensive.

        1 Reply Last reply
        • C
          C
          CHAS
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          Narrow keys thread on Reddit
          link text

          Illegitimi non carborundum

          1 Reply Last reply
          • R
            R
            RealPlayer
            wrote last edited by
            #6

            It occurred to me that the more interesting question is why the wider keyboard came about at all. Weren’t historical piano keys narrower? Is it an improvement nobody asked for?

            1 Reply Last reply
            • RontunerR
              RontunerR
              Rontuner
              wrote last edited by
              #7

              Found this:
              https://paskpiano.org/keyboard-history/
              "Today’s keyboard size dates back to about 1880, when male virtuosi were still actively involved with, and being promoted by, piano manufacturers. To produce a bigger sound in large concert halls, piano design started to incorporate cross-stringing and bigger soundboards, incorporating wider keys in order to minimise the angle of key flare.

              As virtuosi performers were large-handed males (such as Paderewski and Anton Rubinstein), the slightly wider keys would not have presented a problem. The basic cross-strung design from that time, with its ‘standard’ 6.5 inch octave keyboard, has since been adopted by virtually all acoustic piano manufacturers, in both grands and uprights"

              1 Reply Last reply
              👍
              • R
                R
                RealPlayer
                wrote last edited by
                #8

                Thanks, Ron. I was aware of the push for bigger sound (cross-stringing, bigger soundboards) but never heard of key flare. Is that the “bend” in the key stick like what you see in clavichords?

                1 Reply Last reply
                👍
                • C
                  C
                  CHAS
                  wrote last edited by
                  #9

                  Narrow keys? Blasphemy

                  Illegitimi non carborundum

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  • J
                    J
                    jon-nyc
                    wrote last edited by
                    #10

                    I have big hands so it probably isn’t for me but it seems like a good idea.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    • DougGD
                      DougGD
                      DougG
                      wrote last edited by
                      #11

                      having big enough hands is absolutely my only piano skill. Please don’t take that away from me…

                      1 Reply Last reply

                      Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                      Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                      With your input, this post could be even better 💗

                      Register Login
                      Reply
                      • Reply as topic
                      Log in to reply
                      • Oldest to Newest
                      • Newest to Oldest
                      • Most Votes


                      Powered by NodeBB | Contributors
                      • Login

                      • Don't have an account? Register

                      • Login or register to search.
                      • First post
                        Last post
                      0
                      • Categories
                      • Recent
                      • Tags
                      • Popular
                      • Users
                      • Groups