Blitz Primary!
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That's the kind of creative thinking we need. I've been thinking that the Biden situation is an opportunity for the Dems to take us in a new direction. I was more focused on who the nominee might be if Biden withdraws, but turning the selection process on its head is even more intriguing.
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Carville in the NYT. If anyone can provide a gift link, I'll include it here and delete the quoted article. (I got to it via Reader View).
James Carville: Biden Won’t Win. Democrats Need a Plan. Here’s One.
Democrats need a new presidential nominee and can’t rig things for any one candidate. Here’s an idea for how to move forward.
Mark my words: Joe Biden is going to be out of the 2024 presidential race. Whether he is ready to admit it or not. His pleas on Monday to congressional Democrats for support will not unite the party behind him. Mr. Biden says he’s staying in the race, but it’s only a matter of time before Democratic pressure and public and private polling lead him to exit the race. The jig is up, and the sooner Mr. Biden and Democratic leaders accept this, the better. We need to move forward.
But it can’t be by anointing Vice President Kamala Harris or anyone else as the presumptive Democratic nominee. We’ve got to do it out in the open — the exact opposite of what Donald Trump wants us to do.
For the first time in his life, Mr. Trump is praying. To win the White House and increase his chances of avoiding an orange jumpsuit, he needs Democrats to make the wrong moves in the coming days — namely, to appear to rig the nomination for a fading president or the sitting vice president or some other heir apparent. He needs to be able to type ALL CAPS posts about power brokers and big donors putting the fix in. He needs, in other words, for Democrats to blow it.
We’re not going to do that.
We’re going to nominate a new ticket in a highly democratic and novel way, not in the backrooms of Washington, D.C., or Chicago.
We’re at the stage where we need constructive ideas for how to move forward. Representative Jim Clyburn and the Times Opinion columnist Ezra Klein have spoken about a Democratic mini-primary, and I want to build on that.
I want to see the Democratic Party hold four historic town halls between now and the Democratic National Convention in August — one each in the South, the Northeast, the Midwest and the West. We can recruit the two most obvious and qualified people in the world to facilitate substantive discussions: Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. They may not represent every faction under our party’s big tent. But they care as much about our democracy as our nation’s first president, they understand what it takes to be president, and they know how to win.
Town halls — high-stakes job interviews for the toughest job in the world — would surely attract television and cable partners and generate record numbers of viewers. Think the Super Bowl with Taylor Swift in the stands. The young, the old and everyone in between will tune in to see history being made in real time.
How will potential nominees be chosen to participate in the town halls? There is no answer here that will satisfy everyone, but hard choices must be made, given the tight timetable, and I think leaning on the input of former presidents makes good sense. So I would advise Presidents 42 and 44 to select eight leading contenders out of the pool of those who choose to run, with Ms. Harris most definitely getting a well-earned invite.
I believe the vice president would be a formidable opponent for Mr. Trump. She has spent the past four years crisscrossing the country and the globe, serving the American people. She has a hell of a story — one that more people should know. She stood up for ordinary Americans against big banks. She locked up sexual predators. You want the prosecutor, or you want the criminal? Not the worst question to put to the American public this November.
Maybe Presidents 42 and 44 can make the candidate selection even more democratic by consulting the nation’s 23 Democratic governors in the town hall selection process. Governors deal in the practical, not the theoretical. But I’m not a details guy. I say we leave it up to 42 and 44.
To be clear, we have a lot more than eight Democrats who could beat the pants off Mr. Trump. But if we don’t limit the town halls to a manageable number of people, we’ll get sound bites, not substance.
Town halls will give Americans a fresh look at Ms. Harris and introduce them to our deep bench of smart, dynamic, tested leaders. In addition, Democratic delegates will get to further grill and stress-test these leaders in public and private meetings before a formal vote of all the delegates at the Democratic convention.
A word about those delegates: I trust them to reach a majority decision at the convention after a public and substantive process like this one, and you should, too. Sure, we’ve got some folks on the fringes, God love ’em. But an overwhelming majority of Democratic delegates are pragmatic patriots. They work hard and care deeply about their communities and our country. They come from small towns and big cities and everywhere in between.
I’m not worried about our delegates. They’re in it to win it.
I’m not worried about our talent. We have a staggeringly talented new generation of leaders.
I’m not worried about the money. Americans will be fired up by this open process, and many are already fired up to beat Mr. Trump.
I’m not worried about time. We have excitement and momentum on our side.
And our opponent? The one born with a platinum spoon but no moral compass? The pathological liar? The felon? The predator found liable for sexual abuse? The wannabe dictator? The Putin lickspittle?
I’m not worried about him, either.
It’s been an agonizing time for those of us who think President Biden more than earned a second term but isn’t going to win one. But now we’ve got to move on.
Although my friend Rahm Emanuel usually gets credit, I’ve heard more often that it’s Winston Churchill who is said to have advised, “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” A superdemocratic process — the opposite of what Mr. Trump and his MAGA minions would do — is how we’re going to honor that wisdom in our own “Will democracy prevail?” moment.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/08/opinion/biden-democratic-nominee.html
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Carville in the NYT. If anyone can provide a gift link, I'll include it here and delete the quoted article. (I got to it via Reader View).
James Carville: Biden Won’t Win. Democrats Need a Plan. Here’s One.
Democrats need a new presidential nominee and can’t rig things for any one candidate. Here’s an idea for how to move forward.
Mark my words: Joe Biden is going to be out of the 2024 presidential race. Whether he is ready to admit it or not. His pleas on Monday to congressional Democrats for support will not unite the party behind him. Mr. Biden says he’s staying in the race, but it’s only a matter of time before Democratic pressure and public and private polling lead him to exit the race. The jig is up, and the sooner Mr. Biden and Democratic leaders accept this, the better. We need to move forward.
But it can’t be by anointing Vice President Kamala Harris or anyone else as the presumptive Democratic nominee. We’ve got to do it out in the open — the exact opposite of what Donald Trump wants us to do.
For the first time in his life, Mr. Trump is praying. To win the White House and increase his chances of avoiding an orange jumpsuit, he needs Democrats to make the wrong moves in the coming days — namely, to appear to rig the nomination for a fading president or the sitting vice president or some other heir apparent. He needs to be able to type ALL CAPS posts about power brokers and big donors putting the fix in. He needs, in other words, for Democrats to blow it.
We’re not going to do that.
We’re going to nominate a new ticket in a highly democratic and novel way, not in the backrooms of Washington, D.C., or Chicago.
We’re at the stage where we need constructive ideas for how to move forward. Representative Jim Clyburn and the Times Opinion columnist Ezra Klein have spoken about a Democratic mini-primary, and I want to build on that.
I want to see the Democratic Party hold four historic town halls between now and the Democratic National Convention in August — one each in the South, the Northeast, the Midwest and the West. We can recruit the two most obvious and qualified people in the world to facilitate substantive discussions: Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. They may not represent every faction under our party’s big tent. But they care as much about our democracy as our nation’s first president, they understand what it takes to be president, and they know how to win.
Town halls — high-stakes job interviews for the toughest job in the world — would surely attract television and cable partners and generate record numbers of viewers. Think the Super Bowl with Taylor Swift in the stands. The young, the old and everyone in between will tune in to see history being made in real time.
How will potential nominees be chosen to participate in the town halls? There is no answer here that will satisfy everyone, but hard choices must be made, given the tight timetable, and I think leaning on the input of former presidents makes good sense. So I would advise Presidents 42 and 44 to select eight leading contenders out of the pool of those who choose to run, with Ms. Harris most definitely getting a well-earned invite.
I believe the vice president would be a formidable opponent for Mr. Trump. She has spent the past four years crisscrossing the country and the globe, serving the American people. She has a hell of a story — one that more people should know. She stood up for ordinary Americans against big banks. She locked up sexual predators. You want the prosecutor, or you want the criminal? Not the worst question to put to the American public this November.
Maybe Presidents 42 and 44 can make the candidate selection even more democratic by consulting the nation’s 23 Democratic governors in the town hall selection process. Governors deal in the practical, not the theoretical. But I’m not a details guy. I say we leave it up to 42 and 44.
To be clear, we have a lot more than eight Democrats who could beat the pants off Mr. Trump. But if we don’t limit the town halls to a manageable number of people, we’ll get sound bites, not substance.
Town halls will give Americans a fresh look at Ms. Harris and introduce them to our deep bench of smart, dynamic, tested leaders. In addition, Democratic delegates will get to further grill and stress-test these leaders in public and private meetings before a formal vote of all the delegates at the Democratic convention.
A word about those delegates: I trust them to reach a majority decision at the convention after a public and substantive process like this one, and you should, too. Sure, we’ve got some folks on the fringes, God love ’em. But an overwhelming majority of Democratic delegates are pragmatic patriots. They work hard and care deeply about their communities and our country. They come from small towns and big cities and everywhere in between.
I’m not worried about our delegates. They’re in it to win it.
I’m not worried about our talent. We have a staggeringly talented new generation of leaders.
I’m not worried about the money. Americans will be fired up by this open process, and many are already fired up to beat Mr. Trump.
I’m not worried about time. We have excitement and momentum on our side.
And our opponent? The one born with a platinum spoon but no moral compass? The pathological liar? The felon? The predator found liable for sexual abuse? The wannabe dictator? The Putin lickspittle?
I’m not worried about him, either.
It’s been an agonizing time for those of us who think President Biden more than earned a second term but isn’t going to win one. But now we’ve got to move on.
Although my friend Rahm Emanuel usually gets credit, I’ve heard more often that it’s Winston Churchill who is said to have advised, “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” A superdemocratic process — the opposite of what Mr. Trump and his MAGA minions would do — is how we’re going to honor that wisdom in our own “Will democracy prevail?” moment.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/08/opinion/biden-democratic-nominee.html
Heh. James Carville is 79 years old.
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It's not the age, it's how well someone functions.
I know someone who is 99 who is way more coherent than Joe. All the time, not in fits and starts.
There are a lot of people who aren't going to "get with the program". I know Dems who are so disgusted that they are thinking about not voting at all. It doesn't bode well for a victory.
We must do better. I think this is an opportunity to do so. And I think it's practically riskless because I think Biden is going to lose in a landslide.
Don't worry, @Steve-Miller . I'll vote for him if he's the nominee. As I read somewhere, I'd vote for a ham sandwich if that's what the Dems nominate. Just like the GOP is sticking with Trump despite the fact that he is a terrible candidate.
I'm sad about making this decision.
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@CHAS said in Blitz Primary!:
A great idea that would lose the black vote.
Why that particular segment of the voters?
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Heh. James Carville is 79 years old.
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@Steve-Miller
Senator Michael Bennet of Colorado says Biden will not win. Bennet is 59.
link textWhy would he say that? What’s his agenda?
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Why would he say that? What’s his agenda?
@Steve-Miller
What I know is in the link. -
From someone who a) knows Joe well, b) has interacted with him recently, and c) has the inside scoop from Dem leaders.
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From The Lincoln Project:
"Yes, we have to end the noise and focus. But consider this. Democrats are showing that, unlike MAGA, they’re not completely married to a candidate (As an aside, being married to Trump generally doesn’t turn out well.) They’re showing that if President Biden were convicted of 34 felonies, found liable for sexual assault, and found guilty of fraud in his home state, Democrats wouldn’t keep backing him. That’s healthy. That’s a party that functions as a democracy. That’s the party that should be representing the United States after November. Not one that backs a crazed orange dictator to the ends of the Earth.
