Blitz Primary!
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wrote on 8 Jul 2024, 23:37 last edited by wtg 7 Sept 2024, 02:38
It's not the age, it's how well someone functions.
I know someone who is 99 who is way more coherent than Joe. All the time, not in fits and starts.
There are a lot of people who aren't going to "get with the program". I know Dems who are so disgusted that they are thinking about not voting at all. It doesn't bode well for a victory.
We must do better. I think this is an opportunity to do so. And I think it's practically riskless because I think Biden is going to lose in a landslide.
Don't worry, @Steve-Miller . I'll vote for him if he's the nominee. As I read somewhere, I'd vote for a ham sandwich if that's what the Dems nominate. Just like the GOP is sticking with Trump despite the fact that he is a terrible candidate.
I'm sad about making this decision.
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@CHAS said in Blitz Primary!:
A great idea that would lose the black vote.
Why that particular segment of the voters?
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Heh. James Carville is 79 years old.
wrote on 10 Jul 2024, 13:15 last edited by CHAS 7 Oct 2024, 13:19@Steve-Miller
Senator Michael Bennet of Colorado says Biden will not win. Bennet is 59.
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@Steve-Miller
Senator Michael Bennet of Colorado says Biden will not win. Bennet is 59.
link textwrote on 10 Jul 2024, 13:55 last edited byWhy would he say that? What’s his agenda?
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Why would he say that? What’s his agenda?
wrote on 10 Jul 2024, 14:25 last edited by@Steve-Miller
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wrote on 10 Jul 2024, 20:21 last edited by wtg 7 Oct 2024, 20:32
From someone who a) knows Joe well, b) has interacted with him recently, and c) has the inside scoop from Dem leaders.
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wrote on 10 Jul 2024, 20:41 last edited by
Wow... waiting to see if anything changes over the next few days.
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wrote on 10 Jul 2024, 21:34 last edited by
This:
But our party leaders need to stop telling us that 51 million people didn’t see what we just saw.
And also this:
Joe Biden is a hero; he saved democracy in 2020. We need him to do it again in 2024.
Please, President Biden, please, listen!!
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wrote on 11 Jul 2024, 20:38 last edited by wtg 7 Nov 2024, 20:40
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wrote on 11 Jul 2024, 20:40 last edited by
Much as it pains me, I'll be watching the press conference.
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wrote on 11 Jul 2024, 23:38 last edited by
He introduced Zelensky as "President Putin" earlier today.
He just referred to Vice President Harris as Vice President Trump.
:woman-facepalming:
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wrote on 11 Jul 2024, 23:43 last edited by
He called Kamala "Trump" in the first minutes of the news conference.
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wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 00:21 last edited by
From The Lincoln Project:
"Yes, we have to end the noise and focus. But consider this. Democrats are showing that, unlike MAGA, they’re not completely married to a candidate (As an aside, being married to Trump generally doesn’t turn out well.) They’re showing that if President Biden were convicted of 34 felonies, found liable for sexual assault, and found guilty of fraud in his home state, Democrats wouldn’t keep backing him. That’s healthy. That’s a party that functions as a democracy. That’s the party that should be representing the United States after November. Not one that backs a crazed orange dictator to the ends of the Earth. -
wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 01:35 last edited by
I actually thought he did pretty well.
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wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 12:37 last edited by
I must be the only one who thinks he did OK. He displayed a fine command of situations and policies, and the why and wherefore of them. And he didn't tell any obvious bullshit stories. Other than "I was in the Senate a long time", he didn't repeat himself.
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wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 13:08 last edited by
I couldn't watch, but I believe the bar is set impossibly high at this point. He would have to prove that he was the Joe of 10 years ago. (who wasn't honestly that great in public...) There is this expectation that someone great on the stump or in a debate will translate into an effective person in government. I don't believe that to be true!
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I must be the only one who thinks he did OK. He displayed a fine command of situations and policies, and the why and wherefore of them. And he didn't tell any obvious bullshit stories. Other than "I was in the Senate a long time", he didn't repeat himself.
wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 13:42 last edited by wtg 7 Dec 2024, 13:54@Mik I think he did ok, too, but I don't think I was expecting much from him. He did indeed demonstrate his command of foreign policy.
Most people don't go off the cognitive cliff in one leap; things happen gradually over time. My issue is that his performance is showing a definite decline. I don't think he has the stamina for another four years of a presidential schedule in him, even if he does pace himself better. I don't know how he'll even get through the campaign.
I see the polls aren't changing much. It may well be that this is a case of the not Trump/not Biden election, and that nothing is going to change people's vote. As I said before, I think another Trump presidency will be a dumpster fire, so I'll do everything I can to stop it from happening, so I'll be voting for Biden.
As usual, it's going to come down to that 5 or 10 percent of folks in the middle.
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wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 14:03 last edited by wtg 7 Dec 2024, 14:03
Speaking of polls....
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/12/nx-s1-5036518/biden-trump-poll
I haven't seen polling at the state level for the battlegrounds...
It's gonna be a long slog till November, no matter what...