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  • Piano*DadP Offline
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    Piano*Dad
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    #8

    A comment from the German chancellor ...

    https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-merz-says-israel-doing-dirty-work-for-us-in-iran/live-72939104

    Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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    • wtgW Offline
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      wtg
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      #9

      https://x.com/IsraelRealtime/status/1935086020497727914

      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      • Piano*DadP Offline
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        Piano*Dad
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        #10

        If only we had people in power who had any meaningful experience or ethical credentials.

        Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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        • wtgW Offline
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          wtg
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          #11

          I know. I just thought about who is in the Sit Room and I shuddered.

          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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          • Piano*DadP Offline
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            #12

            I suspect we may get another Powell speech about WMD soon ...

            https://apnews.com/article/gabbard-trump-intelligence-iran-nuclear-program-51c8d85d536f8628870c110ac05bb518

            Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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              Daniel.
              wrote last edited by Daniel.
              #13

              Link to video

              Powerful people in the US have wanted this war for decades.

              This could well be worse than Iraq (the 2nd time).

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              • Piano*DadP Piano*Dad

                @Mik said in Iran:

                Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

                Why do you say that? The US has moved substantial air/sea assets into place, including refueling planes necessary to keep an air effort going 24/7.

                Yes, it could all just be posturing or pressure. We'll see. But it's much more than Trump's usual lip shits.

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                Mik
                wrote last edited by Mik
                #14

                @Piano-Dad said in Iran:

                @Mik said in Iran:

                Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

                Why do you say that? The US has moved substantial air/sea assets into place, including refueling planes necessary to keep an air effort going 24/7.

                Yes, it could all just be posturing or pressure. We'll see. But it's much more than Trump's usual lip shits.

                It just adds more credibility to the threat. I just don’t think he will. The only thing we can add is the MOPs and there’s no guarantee they can put Fordo out of business, plus it would spread radiation over the region. If that facility is to be shut down it will have to be by cutting off their power supply, destroying the tunnel access and possibly in combination with a ground assault.

                And don’t forget, every day is Taco Tuesday. If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. I don’t believe he would risk that.

                Our biggest threat here is overreach based on the Israeli successes. The mullahs have had their world rocked. At the very least their adventurism will be greatly chastened even if the regime manages to stay in power. We especially need to stay out of the regime change business. It’s what got us the last 45 years of Iran as we know it.

                “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                ― Douglas Adams

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                  Bernard
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                  #15

                  Bipartisan US lawmakers back resolution to block involvement in Iran...

                  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/17/trump-us-iran-israel-war

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                  • MikM Mik

                    @Piano-Dad said in Iran:

                    @Mik said in Iran:

                    Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

                    Why do you say that? The US has moved substantial air/sea assets into place, including refueling planes necessary to keep an air effort going 24/7.

                    Yes, it could all just be posturing or pressure. We'll see. But it's much more than Trump's usual lip shits.

                    It just adds more credibility to the threat. I just don’t think he will. The only thing we can add is the MOPs and there’s no guarantee they can put Fordo out of business, plus it would spread radiation over the region. If that facility is to be shut down it will have to be by cutting off their power supply, destroying the tunnel access and possibly in combination with a ground assault.

                    And don’t forget, every day is Taco Tuesday. If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. I don’t believe he would risk that.

                    Our biggest threat here is overreach based on the Israeli successes. The mullahs have had their world rocked. At the very least their adventurism will be greatly chastened even if the regime manages to stay in power. We especially need to stay out of the regime change business. It’s what got us the last 45 years of Iran as we know it.

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                    Daniel.
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                    #16

                    @Mik said in Iran:

                    @Piano-Dad said in Iran:

                    @Mik said in Iran:

                    Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

                    Why do you say that? The US has moved substantial air/sea assets into place, including refueling planes necessary to keep an air effort going 24/7.

                    Yes, it could all just be posturing or pressure. We'll see. But it's much more than Trump's usual lip shits.

                    It just adds more credibility to the threat. I just don’t think he will. The only thing we can add is the MOPs and there’s no guarantee they can put Fordo out of business, plus it would spread radiation over the region. If that facility is to be shut down it will have to be by cutting off their power supply, destroying the tunnel access and possibly in combination with a ground assault.

                    And don’t forget, every day is Taco Tuesday. If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. I don’t believe he would risk that.

                    Our biggest threat here is overreach based on the Israeli successes. The mullahs have had their world rocked. At the very least their adventurism will be greatly chastened even if the regime manages to stay in power. We especially need to stay out of the regime change business. It’s what got us the last 45 years of Iran as we know it.

                    I agree completely.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
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                      #17

                      Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

                      “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                      ― Douglas Adams

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                      • MikM Mik

                        Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

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                        wtg
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                        #18

                        @Mik said in Iran:

                        ordinance

                        Ordnance, I think.

                        Signed,
                        The Pedant

                        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
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                          #19

                          So helpful.

                          “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                          ― Douglas Adams

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                            wtg
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                            #20

                            You're welcome. 😘

                            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                              wtg
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                              #21

                              https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-858121

                              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                wtg
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                                #22

                                Um, OK. Not exactly confidence-inspiring.

                                https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/18/trump-iran-may-strike-00412260

                                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                  Daniel.
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                                  #23

                                  Link to video

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                                    Daniel.
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                                    #24

                                    Link to video

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                                    • wtgW Offline
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                                      wtg
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                                      #25

                                      Donald Trump has denied a report in the Wall Street Journal that he has approved US plans to attack Iran, saying that the news outlet has “no idea” what his thinking is concerning the Israel-Iran conflict.

                                      The Journal reported late on Wednesday that Trump told senior aides a day earlier that he had approved attack plans but was delaying on giving the final order to see if Tehran would abandon its nuclear program. The report cited three anonymous officials.

                                      On Thursday, Trump responded to the report, posting on Truth Social: “The Wall Street Journal has No Idea what my thoughts are concerning Iran!”

                                      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/19/trump-iran-attack-plans-denial

                                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                      • Piano*DadP Offline
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                                        Piano*Dad
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                                        Of course he would deny it. No president would want that kind of information known.

                                        On the other hand, it could just represent another instance of T.A.C.O.

                                        Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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