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    Daniel.
    wrote on last edited by Daniel.
    #2

    I hope the Persian jewels are removed to Switzerland or somewhere.

    Not that this this compares with the human carnage.

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    • MikM
      MikM
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

      “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
      ― Douglas Adams

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      • AndyDA
        AndyDA
        AndyD
        wrote on last edited by
        #4

        Nothing is worse than an aggressive theocracy. Eventually you have a choice:
        Convert or Die

        Ventosa viri restabit

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        • MikM Mik

          Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

          Piano*DadP
          Piano*DadP
          Piano*Dad
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          @Mik said in Iran:

          Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

          Why do you say that? The US has moved substantial air/sea assets into place, including refueling planes necessary to keep an air effort going 24/7.

          Yes, it could all just be posturing or pressure. We'll see. But it's much more than Trump's usual lip shits.

          Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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          • Piano*DadP
            Piano*DadP
            Piano*Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            Current probabilities ...

            https://bsky.app/profile/brendannyhan.bsky.social/post/3lrtdleqihk23

            Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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              Daniel.
              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              Yes, well, of course, the existentially threatening nature of a hypothetical involving the posulatuion the US is not posturing, along with the military power the US possesses hardly needs to be discussed.

              I'll be following it.

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              • Piano*DadP
                Piano*DadP
                Piano*Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #8

                A comment from the German chancellor ...

                https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-merz-says-israel-doing-dirty-work-for-us-in-iran/live-72939104

                Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                • wtgW
                  wtgW
                  wtg
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  https://x.com/IsraelRealtime/status/1935086020497727914

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                  • Piano*DadP
                    Piano*DadP
                    Piano*Dad
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    If only we had people in power who had any meaningful experience or ethical credentials.

                    Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                    • wtgW
                      wtgW
                      wtg
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #11

                      I know. I just thought about who is in the Sit Room and I shuddered.

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                      • Piano*DadP
                        Piano*DadP
                        Piano*Dad
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                        #12

                        I suspect we may get another Powell speech about WMD soon ...

                        https://apnews.com/article/gabbard-trump-intelligence-iran-nuclear-program-51c8d85d536f8628870c110ac05bb518

                        Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                          Daniel.
                          wrote on last edited by Daniel.
                          #13

                          Link to video

                          Powerful people in the US have wanted this war for decades.

                          This could well be worse than Iraq (the 2nd time).

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                          • Piano*DadP Piano*Dad

                            @Mik said in Iran:

                            Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

                            Why do you say that? The US has moved substantial air/sea assets into place, including refueling planes necessary to keep an air effort going 24/7.

                            Yes, it could all just be posturing or pressure. We'll see. But it's much more than Trump's usual lip shits.

                            MikM
                            MikM
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by Mik
                            #14

                            @Piano-Dad said in Iran:

                            @Mik said in Iran:

                            Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

                            Why do you say that? The US has moved substantial air/sea assets into place, including refueling planes necessary to keep an air effort going 24/7.

                            Yes, it could all just be posturing or pressure. We'll see. But it's much more than Trump's usual lip shits.

                            It just adds more credibility to the threat. I just don’t think he will. The only thing we can add is the MOPs and there’s no guarantee they can put Fordo out of business, plus it would spread radiation over the region. If that facility is to be shut down it will have to be by cutting off their power supply, destroying the tunnel access and possibly in combination with a ground assault.

                            And don’t forget, every day is Taco Tuesday. If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. I don’t believe he would risk that.

                            Our biggest threat here is overreach based on the Israeli successes. The mullahs have had their world rocked. At the very least their adventurism will be greatly chastened even if the regime manages to stay in power. We especially need to stay out of the regime change business. It’s what got us the last 45 years of Iran as we know it.

                            “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                            ― Douglas Adams

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                              Bernard
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                              #15

                              Bipartisan US lawmakers back resolution to block involvement in Iran...

                              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/17/trump-us-iran-israel-war

                              The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                              • MikM Mik

                                @Piano-Dad said in Iran:

                                @Mik said in Iran:

                                Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

                                Why do you say that? The US has moved substantial air/sea assets into place, including refueling planes necessary to keep an air effort going 24/7.

                                Yes, it could all just be posturing or pressure. We'll see. But it's much more than Trump's usual lip shits.

                                It just adds more credibility to the threat. I just don’t think he will. The only thing we can add is the MOPs and there’s no guarantee they can put Fordo out of business, plus it would spread radiation over the region. If that facility is to be shut down it will have to be by cutting off their power supply, destroying the tunnel access and possibly in combination with a ground assault.

                                And don’t forget, every day is Taco Tuesday. If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. I don’t believe he would risk that.

                                Our biggest threat here is overreach based on the Israeli successes. The mullahs have had their world rocked. At the very least their adventurism will be greatly chastened even if the regime manages to stay in power. We especially need to stay out of the regime change business. It’s what got us the last 45 years of Iran as we know it.

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                                Daniel.
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #16

                                @Mik said in Iran:

                                @Piano-Dad said in Iran:

                                @Mik said in Iran:

                                Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

                                Why do you say that? The US has moved substantial air/sea assets into place, including refueling planes necessary to keep an air effort going 24/7.

                                Yes, it could all just be posturing or pressure. We'll see. But it's much more than Trump's usual lip shits.

                                It just adds more credibility to the threat. I just don’t think he will. The only thing we can add is the MOPs and there’s no guarantee they can put Fordo out of business, plus it would spread radiation over the region. If that facility is to be shut down it will have to be by cutting off their power supply, destroying the tunnel access and possibly in combination with a ground assault.

                                And don’t forget, every day is Taco Tuesday. If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. I don’t believe he would risk that.

                                Our biggest threat here is overreach based on the Israeli successes. The mullahs have had their world rocked. At the very least their adventurism will be greatly chastened even if the regime manages to stay in power. We especially need to stay out of the regime change business. It’s what got us the last 45 years of Iran as we know it.

                                I agree completely.

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                                • MikM
                                  MikM
                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #17

                                  Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

                                  “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                                  ― Douglas Adams

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

                                    wtgW
                                    wtgW
                                    wtg
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #18

                                    @Mik said in Iran:

                                    ordinance

                                    Ordnance, I think.

                                    Signed,
                                    The Pedant

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                                    • MikM
                                      MikM
                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #19

                                      So helpful.

                                      “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                                      ― Douglas Adams

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                                      • wtgW
                                        wtgW
                                        wtg
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #20

                                        You're welcome. 😘

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                                        • wtgW
                                          wtgW
                                          wtg
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #21

                                          https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-858121

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