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    AndyD
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    Nothing is worse than an aggressive theocracy. Eventually you have a choice:
    Convert or Die

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    • MikM Mik

      Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

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      Piano*Dad
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      #5

      @Mik said in Iran:

      Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

      Why do you say that? The US has moved substantial air/sea assets into place, including refueling planes necessary to keep an air effort going 24/7.

      Yes, it could all just be posturing or pressure. We'll see. But it's much more than Trump's usual lip shits.

      Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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        Piano*Dad
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        Current probabilities ...

        https://bsky.app/profile/brendannyhan.bsky.social/post/3lrtdleqihk23

        Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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          Daniel.
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          Yes, well, of course, the existentially threatening nature of a hypothetical involving the posulatuion the US is not posturing, along with the military power the US possesses hardly needs to be discussed.

          I'll be following it.

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            Piano*Dad
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            A comment from the German chancellor ...

            https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-merz-says-israel-doing-dirty-work-for-us-in-iran/live-72939104

            Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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              wtg
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              https://x.com/IsraelRealtime/status/1935086020497727914

              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                Piano*Dad
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                If only we had people in power who had any meaningful experience or ethical credentials.

                Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                  wtg
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                  I know. I just thought about who is in the Sit Room and I shuddered.

                  When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                    Piano*Dad
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                    I suspect we may get another Powell speech about WMD soon ...

                    https://apnews.com/article/gabbard-trump-intelligence-iran-nuclear-program-51c8d85d536f8628870c110ac05bb518

                    Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                      Daniel.
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                      Link to video

                      Powerful people in the US have wanted this war for decades.

                      This could well be worse than Iraq (the 2nd time).

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                      • Piano*DadP Piano*Dad

                        @Mik said in Iran:

                        Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

                        Why do you say that? The US has moved substantial air/sea assets into place, including refueling planes necessary to keep an air effort going 24/7.

                        Yes, it could all just be posturing or pressure. We'll see. But it's much more than Trump's usual lip shits.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by Mik
                        #14

                        @Piano-Dad said in Iran:

                        @Mik said in Iran:

                        Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

                        Why do you say that? The US has moved substantial air/sea assets into place, including refueling planes necessary to keep an air effort going 24/7.

                        Yes, it could all just be posturing or pressure. We'll see. But it's much more than Trump's usual lip shits.

                        It just adds more credibility to the threat. I just don’t think he will. The only thing we can add is the MOPs and there’s no guarantee they can put Fordo out of business, plus it would spread radiation over the region. If that facility is to be shut down it will have to be by cutting off their power supply, destroying the tunnel access and possibly in combination with a ground assault.

                        And don’t forget, every day is Taco Tuesday. If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. I don’t believe he would risk that.

                        Our biggest threat here is overreach based on the Israeli successes. The mullahs have had their world rocked. At the very least their adventurism will be greatly chastened even if the regime manages to stay in power. We especially need to stay out of the regime change business. It’s what got us the last 45 years of Iran as we know it.

                        “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                        ― Douglas Adams

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                          Bipartisan US lawmakers back resolution to block involvement in Iran...

                          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/17/trump-us-iran-israel-war

                          The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            @Piano-Dad said in Iran:

                            @Mik said in Iran:

                            Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

                            Why do you say that? The US has moved substantial air/sea assets into place, including refueling planes necessary to keep an air effort going 24/7.

                            Yes, it could all just be posturing or pressure. We'll see. But it's much more than Trump's usual lip shits.

                            It just adds more credibility to the threat. I just don’t think he will. The only thing we can add is the MOPs and there’s no guarantee they can put Fordo out of business, plus it would spread radiation over the region. If that facility is to be shut down it will have to be by cutting off their power supply, destroying the tunnel access and possibly in combination with a ground assault.

                            And don’t forget, every day is Taco Tuesday. If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. I don’t believe he would risk that.

                            Our biggest threat here is overreach based on the Israeli successes. The mullahs have had their world rocked. At the very least their adventurism will be greatly chastened even if the regime manages to stay in power. We especially need to stay out of the regime change business. It’s what got us the last 45 years of Iran as we know it.

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                            @Mik said in Iran:

                            @Piano-Dad said in Iran:

                            @Mik said in Iran:

                            Posturing. We're not going to join the war.

                            Why do you say that? The US has moved substantial air/sea assets into place, including refueling planes necessary to keep an air effort going 24/7.

                            Yes, it could all just be posturing or pressure. We'll see. But it's much more than Trump's usual lip shits.

                            It just adds more credibility to the threat. I just don’t think he will. The only thing we can add is the MOPs and there’s no guarantee they can put Fordo out of business, plus it would spread radiation over the region. If that facility is to be shut down it will have to be by cutting off their power supply, destroying the tunnel access and possibly in combination with a ground assault.

                            And don’t forget, every day is Taco Tuesday. If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. I don’t believe he would risk that.

                            Our biggest threat here is overreach based on the Israeli successes. The mullahs have had their world rocked. At the very least their adventurism will be greatly chastened even if the regime manages to stay in power. We especially need to stay out of the regime change business. It’s what got us the last 45 years of Iran as we know it.

                            I agree completely.

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                              Mik
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                              Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

                              “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                              ― Douglas Adams

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                              • MikM Mik

                                Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

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                                wtg
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                                #18

                                @Mik said in Iran:

                                ordinance

                                Ordnance, I think.

                                Signed,
                                The Pedant

                                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #19

                                  So helpful.

                                  “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                                  ― Douglas Adams

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                                    wtg
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                                    You're welcome. 😘

                                    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                      wtg
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                                      https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-858121

                                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                        wtg
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                                        Um, OK. Not exactly confidence-inspiring.

                                        https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/18/trump-iran-may-strike-00412260

                                        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                          Daniel.
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                                          Link to video

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