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  • Piano*DadP Piano*Dad

    I'm still quite happy with my version of Marlene after 18 years.

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    @Piano-Dad
    What is your Marlene?

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      It was hard enough finding a piano with the tone and touch I wanted, let alone the color I wanted (rosewood would have been nice). The nice thing about black is it goes with everything, and I have eclectic tastes, so my decorating is all over the place.

      Marlene was last tuned by Marc Wienert when he was here visiting for a week, after we left Missoula. It was a great visit, and of his own initiative he worked on the piano every day, several times a day. He made that tuning so stable, when I had a tech visiting from Billings over to tune it, a few years later, he declined, saying there was nothing for him to do. We were able to maintain the stability of Marc's tuning by managing the temperature and humidity in the room, and when we moved to our present house, I had a piano technician remove the action and bring it to the new house in his car, then reinstall it, so that the movers couldn't knock anything out of alignment. That local tech also couldn't find anything to do when I asked him to tune it--after it was set up in the new house.

      Then Tom, the tech I used in Missoula, came through for a visit and played it. In tune. It's been years now. The piano changes with the temperature and humidity, but remains stable. I am playing a lot less than I used to--I have pretty severe and disabling arthritis in my thumbs--a consequence of having loose joints--so playing very much gets painful. We also are living well out of town and up a very steep hill that visitors find challenging in winter. Would love to be hosting piano parties, though!

      Marc has been very ill for the past year, and can't even drive very far, let alone fly out. There are a couple of good techs here that I would be happy to use, when/if it is needed. But for now, Marlene's voice is still Marc's doing. 🙂

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      @pique
      I'm sorry to read about your arthritis and hope you find some treatment.
      My mother got it when very old in her eighties, my father never did; fingers crossed I have Dad's physique.

      Great to hear your piano still thrills. Perhaps little and often will be the way to prevent pain?
      That's how I now play now we're retired, to avoid left arm aches from playing 10ths. I wander into the sitting room maybe three times a day to noodle for half an hour.

      After reading through your book I took a closer look at the internals of our piano and decided it needs regulation work as well as tuning. I have to choose from a few names suggested by Steinway & Buthner. That takes some concern out of the process, but I guess everyone here will understand the worry of a stranger messing with the pins on what is like an extra child in the family.
      About time we named him. I feel he's a he😄

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        @kluurs
        You're spot on, black fits and does look good. And my sister had to have black, "it's the proper finish". (But when did it become the norm?)
        Chappels must have had 20 pianos and they were all black. Bluthner the same.

        Looking at the Korg website, this was new:
        https://www.musicradar.com/news/korg-chopin-piano-poetry?origin=serp_auto

        Apple❤
        I recall Mark, isn't he also an astronomer? But posts at tncr?
        The next video that comes up is of Mary Anna, sounding very nice. Is that perhaps a NY Steinway she's playing?

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        @AndyD said in Grand Obsession:

        Looking at the Korg website, this was new:
        https://www.musicradar.com/news/korg-chopin-piano-poetry?origin=serp_auto

        From that link:

        The first of Poetry’s two piano tones is based on Chopin’s 1843 Pleyel piano, which had 80 keys and was pitched at 430Hz rather than 440Hz, the modern tuning standard. This gives it a distinct tone that promises to be authentic to the one that Chopin would have experienced.

        Ha! Maybe @Nina can get a digital Pleyel....

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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          @Piano-Dad
          What is your Marlene?

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          pique
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          @AndyD PD has the same make and model of piano that I do. There were 3 of us that bought Grotrian Cabinet grands all about the same time. The other person is Grotriman, who rarely visits here, but he and I keep in touch. ETA: Grotriman is in Grand Obsession--Jerry Korten. His 13 year old son, Lex, performed at my book launch at B&N Lincoln Center. Lex is now a highly regarded jazz pianist with his own quartet and a steady calendar of gigs around the world. He has some CDs out, too.

          If you can, use a tech who trained at the factory that built your piano. He will be most familiar with the specs.

          fear is the thief of dreams

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            I still have the Walter grand that I purchased in Colorado Springs in 2000. It’s been on a moving van 7 times since then. I keep thinking at some point all the keys will just fall out when it gets moved into the house, but they haven’t. I’ve even been playing fairly regularly lately. Learning this piece:

            Link to video

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              wtg
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              A “before my time” question…where was the August 2008 piano party held?

              Clips from the gathering to nudge memories…

              Link to video

              Link to video

              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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              • JodiJ Jodi

                I still have the Walter grand that I purchased in Colorado Springs in 2000. It’s been on a moving van 7 times since then. I keep thinking at some point all the keys will just fall out when it gets moved into the house, but they haven’t. I’ve even been playing fairly regularly lately. Learning this piece:

                Link to video

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                ShiroKuro
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                @Jodi that reminds me, I’ve planning to work on a piece by him (not that one, it’s too fast for me).

                I notice he seems to play barefoot in a lot of his videos.

                Must not have plantar fasciitis …

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                  Jodi
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                  Yes, I noticed that too. I can’t do that either - hurts my feet! What piece are you going to work on? So far I’ve only purchased two, but want to try more. I really like his music.

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                    ShiroKuro
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                    I haven’t started it yet (gotta get past the concert before I start anything new right now) but it’s this one (also barefoot 😆

                    Link to video

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                      Jodi
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                      That’s the other one I bought, lol. He did a better job for old eyes in the sheet music for The Messenger - the notes and staffs are bigger on the printout for that than they are for this one. You should try The Messenger. It’s really not harder than this one, except that the speed is in the left hand instead of the right, and you can play it much more slowly than he plays it, and it’s still beautiful. I feel like some of these modern piano composers that I like have a much bigger reach than I do, and I have to think about how to best do the fingering, as I am unable to do what they do (there are a few awkward reaches in The messenger).

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                        A “before my time” question…where was the August 2008 piano party held?

                        Clips from the gathering to nudge memories…

                        Link to video

                        Link to video

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                        @wtg said in Grand Obsession:

                        A “before my time” question…where was the August 2008 piano party held?

                        New York City.
                        IIRC, Elena's duo were giving a concert in Carnegie Hall that weekend so Jon-NYC hosted a piano party to coincide with the event.
                        Naturally, a great time was had by all.

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                          wtg
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                          @Axtremus - But that's not jon's house in those videos, is it?

                          This one is from jon's party:

                          Link to video

                          edit: I just looked it up ow PW. Duo Scarbo's Carnegie concert was in June 2007.

                          August 2008 piano party still a mystery....

                          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                            @wtg said in Grand Obsession:

                            A “before my time” question…where was the August 2008 piano party held?

                            New York City.
                            IIRC, Elena's duo were giving a concert in Carnegie Hall that weekend so Jon-NYC hosted a piano party to coincide with the event.
                            Naturally, a great time was had by all.

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                            @Axtremus no, that party was in 2007. June. IIRR. And that party was held in JonNYC's Brooklyn apt, which did not have curtains like that. I am sure of this because I was unable to attend that party due to being on deadline to finish the ms for Grand Obsession, which was published in Jan 2008. Also I've been to Jon's apt several times and that isn't his apt.

                            Maybe this was in the Washington DC area? Didn't we have a PW member who threw a party there the following summer? Or maybe it was at Mary Anna's in Florida? I remember not being able to attend those either because of the book tour.

                            fear is the thief of dreams

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                              A “before my time” question…where was the August 2008 piano party held?

                              Clips from the gathering to nudge memories…

                              Link to video

                              Link to video

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                              I believe the video of Muffin and me was made at Plays88Keys' piano party. Jon was there and he's in the video. Do you recall, Jon?

                              She had a Steinway at the time, so you're probably right that it was a New York Steinway.

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                                I had a party in Florida, but it was in 2007 and that's not my house. I'm pretty sure it was at Plays' house in Virginia.

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                                  Mary Anna
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                                  If anybody wants to feel old, Muffin just turned 29. (Ack!)

                                  They are singing in a community choir and I was just down there Thursday to hear a performance. It is so lovely to live nearby.

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                                    That’s the other one I bought, lol. He did a better job for old eyes in the sheet music for The Messenger - the notes and staffs are bigger on the printout for that than they are for this one. You should try The Messenger. It’s really not harder than this one, except that the speed is in the left hand instead of the right, and you can play it much more slowly than he plays it, and it’s still beautiful. I feel like some of these modern piano composers that I like have a much bigger reach than I do, and I have to think about how to best do the fingering, as I am unable to do what they do (there are a few awkward reaches in The messenger).

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                                    ShiroKuro
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                                    @Jodi said in Grand Obsession:

                                    I feel like some of these modern piano composers that I like have a much bigger reach than I do,

                                    Yep. I play music by Alexis Ffrench, David Lanz, and George Winston. All of these guys are quite tall, and as far as I can tell from videos, they all have massive hands.

                                    😑

                                    I’ll check out the Messenger.

                                    I need to pick my next pieces to work on after the concert is over …

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                                      AndyD
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                                      Piano tuner booked for next Friday, retired from London Steinway so fingers crossed.

                                      Meanwhile our piano stool, (chewed by a teething dog years ago) got some TLC this week:
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                                      All four legs chewed in two places were filled and then stained

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                                        You'd never notice now

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                                        • wtgW wtg

                                          @AndyD said in Grand Obsession:

                                          Looking at the Korg website, this was new:
                                          https://www.musicradar.com/news/korg-chopin-piano-poetry?origin=serp_auto

                                          From that link:

                                          The first of Poetry’s two piano tones is based on Chopin’s 1843 Pleyel piano, which had 80 keys and was pitched at 430Hz rather than 440Hz, the modern tuning standard. This gives it a distinct tone that promises to be authentic to the one that Chopin would have experienced.

                                          Ha! Maybe @Nina can get a digital Pleyel....

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                                          @wtg ❤️
                                          I still miss my Pleyel...

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