Springfield, OH
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DeWine is an excellent governor and a good man. I used to know the family.
“I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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Before Trump and Vance, the only thing Springfield residents had to worry about were Haitian immigrants...
Friday marks the second day in a row that Springfield public school students were evacuated after the city gained national attention for unfounded right-wing rumors about the community's Haitian immigrant population.
On Thursday, Springfield City Hall and Fulton Elementary School were evacuated after bomb threats were sent to multiple city facilities, officials said. Every Clark County building was also closed Thursday out of "an abundance of caution," county officials said.
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@Mik
That's consistent with my impressions of Gov.DeWine formed at a small distance (I grew up in Ohio, but have lived in Pennsylvania for most of my adult life).I thought he handled the pandemic response as well as almost any governor could have at the time.
That article lends a much more nuanced picture of the immigrant situation in Springfield and, I believe, similar cities elsewhere in the country.
Big Al
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John Legend was born in Springfield. He had something to say.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-legend-springfield-ohio-trump-migrants-pets/
When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier
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Be careful of what you post online. The woman whose FB post seems to have started this whole mess.
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Trump does what he does best. He’s creating chaos via hate mongering.
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump pledged on Friday to conduct mass deportations of Haitian immigrants from the Ohio city of Springfield, even though the majority of them are in the United States legally..
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-says-attacks-haitian-immigrants-have-stop-2024-09-13/
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From the Canadian press.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/russia-disinformation-putin-trump-ukraine-1.7321506
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@wtg said in Springfield, OH:
John Legend was born in Springfield. He had something to say.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-legend-springfield-ohio-trump-migrants-pets/
Yep. He went to my high school. Saw him with the symphony Tuesday night. Fantastic show, and a truly amazing talent. He had a lot of family there and a dozen or so got up to sing with him.
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Trump is planning a visit to Springfield.
And he's fueling the fire:
What an idiot.
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Local health officials have also denied that the influx of Haitian immigrants in the city has led to a rise in “communicable diseases” — another claim Vance promoted.
“This is a piece of garbage that is simply not true. There’s no evidence of this at all,” DeWine said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.””
Bomb threats that were later proven to be false have since forced the evacuation and closure of schools and government buildings in Springfield, including City Hall. Threats have also targeted local colleges and a hospital.
The governor said beginning Tuesday, members of the Ohio State Highway Patrol field force will sweep Springfield school buildings every morning and evening, and that officers will remain on campuses during the school day.
DeWine on Monday indicated the threats were being made by non-American actors.
”We have people, unfortunately overseas, who are taking these actions. Some of them are coming from one particular country,” he said, not specifying the country to which he was referring. “We think that this is one more opportunity to mess with the United States, and they’re continuing to do that. So we cannot let the bad guys win.””
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/16/springfield-bomb-threats-ohio-republican.html
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One more visitor to Springfield and Appalachia with a particularly apt analysis of J. D. Vance.
Big Al
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That's a very insightful piece, @Big_Al . Thanks for posting it.
This sums it up so well.
Vance has turned Solzhenitsyn’s maxim on its head: “Let the lie come into the world, but only through me, and only if I get something good out of it.” A man who is not suffering from whatever disease of the soul with which Vance is afflicted would have a hard time even imagining wanting to be vice president—of all petty things!—that bad. A different and better sort of man would understand that bearing false witness against 15,000 poor and vulnerable people in the pursuit of political power is the same as bearing false witness against anybody else.
But I’ll give Vance the last word. Here he is on Twitter, back when Twitter was Twitter and J.D. Vance was J.D. Vance: “Trump makes people I care about afraid. Immigrants, Muslims, etc. Because of this, I find him reprehensible. God wants better of us.”
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Here's an article from July, before Vance and Trump leapt into the fray...
Descriptions of the real issues and how serious people are trying to come up with solutions:
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Local reporting > some bozo on X
Springfield officials were in the dark about the possibility of a large immigrant relocation to the area, Mayor Rob Rue said at the recent Springfield City Commission meeting, but a “network of businesses knew what was coming.”
Investigation by the city’s Immigrant Accountability Response Team formed in October of 2023 has revealed the possibility “there were companies that knew they were going to make an effort to bring in individuals who were crossing the border based on federal regulations that they could do that,” Rue said. “I’m upset at the fact we didn’t get a chance to have an infrastructure in place if there were going to be 20,000 more people from 2020 to 2025. We didn’t get to do that.”
If they had known what to expect, he said, the city would have taken steps to “hire 25 more police officers and 25 firefighters … along with making sure individuals already living here and faithfully paying rent would not be displaced because of the greed of landlords. We would have been ahead of that or tried to combat it … we did not get to do that.”
Another conversation at the commission session centered on housing affordability and the housing shortfall that has been driving up rents, often resulting in the eviction of long-time tenants who can no longer afford to stay in their homes.
City officials shared the frustration expressed by residents about the increasing ownership of housing by Limited Liability Corporations (LLCs) from outside the community. Rue said the city is looking into what options might be available to address the problems created by LLC ownership of properties in the city.
Commissioner Bridget Houston indicated her recent exploration of the issue revealed one of five property purchases in the country is now by an LLC for investment purposes.
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They’re not really trying. Those arguments are weird as hell.
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I don’t even know where to start.
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@Steve-Miller - would love to hear your thoughts.
Meanwhile, Vivek Ramaswamy is having a town hall meeting tomorrow night in Springfield.
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OK. I’ll start. Hire 25 more firefighters? I can’t think of anything more expensive and less productive.
Are immigrants running around setting fires? If they are I haven’t heard about it.
And neither has anyone else.
25 more police officers? To do what? Keep these people from going to work every day?
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@wtg Who the hell is Vivek Ramaswamy?
Does he eat cats?
