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  • MikM Mik

    DeWine is an excellent governor and a good man. I used to know the family.

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    Big_Al
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    @Mik
    That's consistent with my impressions of Gov.DeWine formed at a small distance (I grew up in Ohio, but have lived in Pennsylvania for most of my adult life).

    I thought he handled the pandemic response as well as almost any governor could have at the time.

    That article lends a much more nuanced picture of the immigrant situation in Springfield and, I believe, similar cities elsewhere in the country.

    Big Al

    Money seems to buy the most happiness when you give it away.

    Why does everything have to be so complicated, all in the name of convenience. -ShiroKuro

    A lifetime of experience will change a person. If it doesn't, then you're already dead inside. -MarkJ

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      John Legend was born in Springfield. He had something to say.

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-legend-springfield-ohio-trump-migrants-pets/

      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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        Be careful of what you post online. The woman whose FB post seems to have started this whole mess.

        https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/-just-exploded-springfield-woman-says-never-meant-spark-rumors-haitian-rcna171099

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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          Trump does what he does best. He’s creating chaos via hate mongering.

          Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump pledged on Friday to conduct mass deportations of Haitian immigrants from the Ohio city of Springfield, even though the majority of them are in the United States legally..

          https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-says-attacks-haitian-immigrants-have-stop-2024-09-13/

          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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            From the Canadian press.

            https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/russia-disinformation-putin-trump-ukraine-1.7321506

            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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            • wtgW wtg

              John Legend was born in Springfield. He had something to say.

              https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-legend-springfield-ohio-trump-migrants-pets/

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              @wtg said in Springfield, OH:

              John Legend was born in Springfield. He had something to say.

              https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-legend-springfield-ohio-trump-migrants-pets/

              Yep. He went to my high school. Saw him with the symphony Tuesday night. Fantastic show, and a truly amazing talent. He had a lot of family there and a dozen or so got up to sing with him.

              “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
              ― Douglas Adams

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                Trump is planning a visit to Springfield.

                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-plans-visit-springfield-ohio-haitian-migrants-conspiracy-theory-rcna171190

                And he's fueling the fire:

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-faces-backlash-for-springfield-bomb-threat-response/ar-AA1qCrGv?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=f020721eed8a4810a484cd6f82f8e79e&ei=75

                What an idiot.

                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                  Local health officials have also denied that the influx of Haitian immigrants in the city has led to a rise in “communicable diseases” — another claim Vance promoted.

                  “This is a piece of garbage that is simply not true. There’s no evidence of this at all,” DeWine said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.””

                  Bomb threats that were later proven to be false have since forced the evacuation and closure of schools and government buildings in Springfield, including City Hall. Threats have also targeted local colleges and a hospital.

                  The governor said beginning Tuesday, members of the Ohio State Highway Patrol field force will sweep Springfield school buildings every morning and evening, and that officers will remain on campuses during the school day.

                  DeWine on Monday indicated the threats were being made by non-American actors.

                  ”We have people, unfortunately overseas, who are taking these actions. Some of them are coming from one particular country,” he said, not specifying the country to which he was referring. “We think that this is one more opportunity to mess with the United States, and they’re continuing to do that. So we cannot let the bad guys win.””

                  https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/16/springfield-bomb-threats-ohio-republican.html

                  When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                    https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/wanderland/exotic-cat-eaters-springfield-ohio/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

                    One more visitor to Springfield and Appalachia with a particularly apt analysis of J. D. Vance.

                    Big Al

                    Money seems to buy the most happiness when you give it away.

                    Why does everything have to be so complicated, all in the name of convenience. -ShiroKuro

                    A lifetime of experience will change a person. If it doesn't, then you're already dead inside. -MarkJ

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                      That's a very insightful piece, @Big_Al . Thanks for posting it.

                      This sums it up so well.

                      Vance has turned Solzhenitsyn’s maxim on its head: “Let the lie come into the world, but only through me, and only if I get something good out of it.” A man who is not suffering from whatever disease of the soul with which Vance is afflicted would have a hard time even imagining wanting to be vice president—of all petty things!—that bad. A different and better sort of man would understand that bearing false witness against 15,000 poor and vulnerable people in the pursuit of political power is the same as bearing false witness against anybody else.

                      But I’ll give Vance the last word. Here he is on Twitter, back when Twitter was Twitter and J.D. Vance was J.D. Vance: “Trump makes people I care about afraid. Immigrants, Muslims, etc. Because of this, I find him reprehensible. God wants better of us.”

                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                        https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/wanderland/exotic-cat-eaters-springfield-ohio/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

                        One more visitor to Springfield and Appalachia with a particularly apt analysis of J. D. Vance.

                        Big Al

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                        @Big_Al

                        An excellent piece of work.

                        Thanks!

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                          Here's an article from July, before Vance and Trump leapt into the fray...

                          Descriptions of the real issues and how serious people are trying to come up with solutions:

                          https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/thousands-of-haitian-immigrants-now-in-springfield-5-takeaways-from-our-reporting/QQFDZR6JAVCBNC6TGZGAEKE2JU/

                          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                            Local reporting > some bozo on X

                            Springfield officials were in the dark about the possibility of a large immigrant relocation to the area, Mayor Rob Rue said at the recent Springfield City Commission meeting, but a “network of businesses knew what was coming.”

                            Investigation by the city’s Immigrant Accountability Response Team formed in October of 2023 has revealed the possibility “there were companies that knew they were going to make an effort to bring in individuals who were crossing the border based on federal regulations that they could do that,” Rue said. “I’m upset at the fact we didn’t get a chance to have an infrastructure in place if there were going to be 20,000 more people from 2020 to 2025. We didn’t get to do that.”

                            If they had known what to expect, he said, the city would have taken steps to “hire 25 more police officers and 25 firefighters … along with making sure individuals already living here and faithfully paying rent would not be displaced because of the greed of landlords. We would have been ahead of that or tried to combat it … we did not get to do that.”

                            Another conversation at the commission session centered on housing affordability and the housing shortfall that has been driving up rents, often resulting in the eviction of long-time tenants who can no longer afford to stay in their homes.

                            City officials shared the frustration expressed by residents about the increasing ownership of housing by Limited Liability Corporations (LLCs) from outside the community. Rue said the city is looking into what options might be available to address the problems created by LLC ownership of properties in the city.

                            Commissioner Bridget Houston indicated her recent exploration of the issue revealed one of five property purchases in the country is now by an LLC for investment purposes.

                            https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/springfield-mayor-investigation-into-businesses-immigration-continues/W4OJQYSNUBF7JCMSD72VVQGNQI/

                            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                              Steve Miller
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                              They’re not really trying. Those arguments are weird as hell.

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                                I don’t even know where to start.

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                                  @Steve-Miller - would love to hear your thoughts.

                                  Meanwhile, Vivek Ramaswamy is having a town hall meeting tomorrow night in Springfield.

                                  When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                    OK. I’ll start. Hire 25 more firefighters? I can’t think of anything more expensive and less productive.

                                    Are immigrants running around setting fires? If they are I haven’t heard about it.

                                    And neither has anyone else.

                                    25 more police officers? To do what? Keep these people from going to work every day?

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                                      @Steve-Miller - would love to hear your thoughts.

                                      Meanwhile, Vivek Ramaswamy is having a town hall meeting tomorrow night in Springfield.

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                                      @wtg Who the hell is Vivek Ramaswamy?

                                      Does he eat cats?

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                                        Trump sycophant. From Wikipedia:

                                        Ganapathy Ramaswamy (/vɪˈveɪk rɑːməˈswɑːmiː/;[1][2] vih-VAYK rah-mə-SWAH-mee; born August 9, 1985) is an American entrepreneur. He founded Roivant Sciences, a pharmaceutical company, in 2014. In February 2023, Ramaswamy declared his candidacy for the Republican Party nomination in the 2024 United States presidential election. He suspended his campaign in January 2024, after finishing fourth in the Iowa caucuses.[3]

                                        Ramaswamy was born in Cincinnati to Indian immigrant parents. He graduated from Harvard University with a bachelor's degree in biology and later earned a law degree from Yale Law School. Ramaswamy worked as an investment partner at a hedge fund before founding Roivant Sciences. He also co-founded an investment firm, Strive Asset Management.

                                        Ramaswamy sees the United States in the middle of a national identity crisis precipitated by what he calls "new secular religions like COVID-ism, climate-ism, and gender ideology".[4] He is also a critic of environmental, social, and corporate governance initiatives (ESG).[5] In January 2024, Forbes estimated Ramaswamy's net worth at more than $960 million; his wealth comes from biotech and financial businesses.[6][7]

                                        Ended his campaign in January and endorsed Trump.

                                        Does he eat cats?

                                        Unlikely.

                                        Ramaswamy is a monotheistic Hindu.[21] According to relatives, he is fluent in Tamil[144][145] and understands (but does not speak) Malayalam.[145] He is a vegetarian and wrote in 2020, "I believe it is wrong to kill sentient animals for culinary pleasure".[27][74][146]

                                        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                          Steve Miller
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                                          Another right wing kook. Hope he takes his schtick out of Ohio.

                                          We have work to do.

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