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    Long read from Isaac Saul on Tangle.

    https://www.readtangle.com/springfield-ohio-immigration-haiti-cats/?ref=tangle-newsletter

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      Long read from Isaac Saul on Tangle.

      https://www.readtangle.com/springfield-ohio-immigration-haiti-cats/?ref=tangle-newsletter

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      @wtg Excellent article!

      I’ve bookmarked the website and I like the author’s approach.

      Thanks

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        Glad you liked Isaac's work. Don't know if you saw his bio.

        Who runs this thing?

        My name is Isaac Saul. I am a politics reporter who grew up in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, one of the most politically divided counties in all of America. I have lived, studied, traveled and written all over the U.S., Bolivia, Canada, China, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, Egypt, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Israel, Italy, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Singapore and Thailand, among others.

        After college, I helped build A Plus, a solutions journalism media outlet, alongside actor and entrepreneur Ashton Kutcher. I worked as an editor and politics reporter for A Plus while I freelanced all over. My work has appeared in just about every digital publication under the sun, and has also been cited by some of the "big names" like Fox News, The New York Times and The Washington Post.

        In 2016, Yahoo News named me one of the 16 people whose writing shaped the 2016 election. In 2020, Forbes Magazine called me one of the 1,000 “upstart entrepreneurs redefining the American dream.” You can read more about my career as a reporter here or follow me on Twitter.

        But it's not just me. Tangle is produced by a five-person team: Two full-time editors and researchers, a social media manager and advertising director, and a YouTube and podcast editor. We also have part-time editors and interns with educational and professional experience across the spectrum who all work on helping research and produce our content. And, of course, we include the opinions and feedback from readers in almost every newsletter.

        I started Tangle because I recognized that the news industry was broken. My work was getting published in a lot of different places, and I realized people trusted it not based on what I was saying — but based on where I was saying it. Readers on the left would trust nothing I wrote if it showed up in a conservative-leaning news outlet, and vice versa. This is how I realized just how strong the information bubble was. So I had a concept I wanted to execute: A newsletter where no matter who you were you would encounter political opinions that you did not agree with. That seemed healthy to me. Then I launched Tangle as a side project, and as it grew I decided to quit my job and go "all-in" on building it out.

        Today, our readers span the political spectrum: Roughly 40% of our readers self-identify as liberal, 30% self-identify as conservative, and the rest say they are independent or outside the left-right binary.

        If you'd like to give it a shot, you can subscribe to Tangle for free here.

        https://www.readtangle.com/about/

        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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          Gov. DeWine’s connection to Haiti.

          https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/ohio-gov-dewines-deep-connections-to-haiti-inform-response-to-springfield-controversy/M5HTIUUODNE4FIUPQ2AHDQSIHA/

          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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            Wow. There’s more to DeWine than I thought. This story really surprised me.

            I’ll be reading up on him.

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              DeWine is an excellent governor and a good man. I used to know the family.

              “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
              ― Douglas Adams

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                Before Trump and Vance, the only thing Springfield residents had to worry about were Haitian immigrants...

                Friday marks the second day in a row that Springfield public school students were evacuated after the city gained national attention for unfounded right-wing rumors about the community's Haitian immigrant population.

                On Thursday, Springfield City Hall and Fulton Elementary School were evacuated after bomb threats were sent to multiple city facilities, officials said. Every Clark County building was also closed Thursday out of "an abundance of caution," county officials said.

                https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2024/09/13/two-springfield-schools-evacuated-one-closed-after-police-warning/75204532007/

                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                • MikM Mik

                  DeWine is an excellent governor and a good man. I used to know the family.

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                  @Mik
                  That's consistent with my impressions of Gov.DeWine formed at a small distance (I grew up in Ohio, but have lived in Pennsylvania for most of my adult life).

                  I thought he handled the pandemic response as well as almost any governor could have at the time.

                  That article lends a much more nuanced picture of the immigrant situation in Springfield and, I believe, similar cities elsewhere in the country.

                  Big Al

                  Money seems to buy the most happiness when you give it away.

                  Why does everything have to be so complicated, all in the name of convenience. -ShiroKuro

                  A lifetime of experience will change a person. If it doesn't, then you're already dead inside. -MarkJ

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                    John Legend was born in Springfield. He had something to say.

                    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-legend-springfield-ohio-trump-migrants-pets/

                    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                      Be careful of what you post online. The woman whose FB post seems to have started this whole mess.

                      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/-just-exploded-springfield-woman-says-never-meant-spark-rumors-haitian-rcna171099

                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                        Trump does what he does best. He’s creating chaos via hate mongering.

                        Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump pledged on Friday to conduct mass deportations of Haitian immigrants from the Ohio city of Springfield, even though the majority of them are in the United States legally..

                        https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-says-attacks-haitian-immigrants-have-stop-2024-09-13/

                        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                          From the Canadian press.

                          https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/russia-disinformation-putin-trump-ukraine-1.7321506

                          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                            John Legend was born in Springfield. He had something to say.

                            https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-legend-springfield-ohio-trump-migrants-pets/

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                            @wtg said in Springfield, OH:

                            John Legend was born in Springfield. He had something to say.

                            https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-legend-springfield-ohio-trump-migrants-pets/

                            Yep. He went to my high school. Saw him with the symphony Tuesday night. Fantastic show, and a truly amazing talent. He had a lot of family there and a dozen or so got up to sing with him.

                            “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                            ― Douglas Adams

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                              Trump is planning a visit to Springfield.

                              https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-plans-visit-springfield-ohio-haitian-migrants-conspiracy-theory-rcna171190

                              And he's fueling the fire:

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-faces-backlash-for-springfield-bomb-threat-response/ar-AA1qCrGv?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=f020721eed8a4810a484cd6f82f8e79e&ei=75

                              What an idiot.

                              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                Local health officials have also denied that the influx of Haitian immigrants in the city has led to a rise in “communicable diseases” — another claim Vance promoted.

                                “This is a piece of garbage that is simply not true. There’s no evidence of this at all,” DeWine said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.””

                                Bomb threats that were later proven to be false have since forced the evacuation and closure of schools and government buildings in Springfield, including City Hall. Threats have also targeted local colleges and a hospital.

                                The governor said beginning Tuesday, members of the Ohio State Highway Patrol field force will sweep Springfield school buildings every morning and evening, and that officers will remain on campuses during the school day.

                                DeWine on Monday indicated the threats were being made by non-American actors.

                                ”We have people, unfortunately overseas, who are taking these actions. Some of them are coming from one particular country,” he said, not specifying the country to which he was referring. “We think that this is one more opportunity to mess with the United States, and they’re continuing to do that. So we cannot let the bad guys win.””

                                https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/16/springfield-bomb-threats-ohio-republican.html

                                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                  https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/wanderland/exotic-cat-eaters-springfield-ohio/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

                                  One more visitor to Springfield and Appalachia with a particularly apt analysis of J. D. Vance.

                                  Big Al

                                  Money seems to buy the most happiness when you give it away.

                                  Why does everything have to be so complicated, all in the name of convenience. -ShiroKuro

                                  A lifetime of experience will change a person. If it doesn't, then you're already dead inside. -MarkJ

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                                    That's a very insightful piece, @Big_Al . Thanks for posting it.

                                    This sums it up so well.

                                    Vance has turned Solzhenitsyn’s maxim on its head: “Let the lie come into the world, but only through me, and only if I get something good out of it.” A man who is not suffering from whatever disease of the soul with which Vance is afflicted would have a hard time even imagining wanting to be vice president—of all petty things!—that bad. A different and better sort of man would understand that bearing false witness against 15,000 poor and vulnerable people in the pursuit of political power is the same as bearing false witness against anybody else.

                                    But I’ll give Vance the last word. Here he is on Twitter, back when Twitter was Twitter and J.D. Vance was J.D. Vance: “Trump makes people I care about afraid. Immigrants, Muslims, etc. Because of this, I find him reprehensible. God wants better of us.”

                                    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                      https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/wanderland/exotic-cat-eaters-springfield-ohio/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

                                      One more visitor to Springfield and Appalachia with a particularly apt analysis of J. D. Vance.

                                      Big Al

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                                      @Big_Al

                                      An excellent piece of work.

                                      Thanks!

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                                        Here's an article from July, before Vance and Trump leapt into the fray...

                                        Descriptions of the real issues and how serious people are trying to come up with solutions:

                                        https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/thousands-of-haitian-immigrants-now-in-springfield-5-takeaways-from-our-reporting/QQFDZR6JAVCBNC6TGZGAEKE2JU/

                                        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                          Local reporting > some bozo on X

                                          Springfield officials were in the dark about the possibility of a large immigrant relocation to the area, Mayor Rob Rue said at the recent Springfield City Commission meeting, but a “network of businesses knew what was coming.”

                                          Investigation by the city’s Immigrant Accountability Response Team formed in October of 2023 has revealed the possibility “there were companies that knew they were going to make an effort to bring in individuals who were crossing the border based on federal regulations that they could do that,” Rue said. “I’m upset at the fact we didn’t get a chance to have an infrastructure in place if there were going to be 20,000 more people from 2020 to 2025. We didn’t get to do that.”

                                          If they had known what to expect, he said, the city would have taken steps to “hire 25 more police officers and 25 firefighters … along with making sure individuals already living here and faithfully paying rent would not be displaced because of the greed of landlords. We would have been ahead of that or tried to combat it … we did not get to do that.”

                                          Another conversation at the commission session centered on housing affordability and the housing shortfall that has been driving up rents, often resulting in the eviction of long-time tenants who can no longer afford to stay in their homes.

                                          City officials shared the frustration expressed by residents about the increasing ownership of housing by Limited Liability Corporations (LLCs) from outside the community. Rue said the city is looking into what options might be available to address the problems created by LLC ownership of properties in the city.

                                          Commissioner Bridget Houston indicated her recent exploration of the issue revealed one of five property purchases in the country is now by an LLC for investment purposes.

                                          https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/springfield-mayor-investigation-into-businesses-immigration-continues/W4OJQYSNUBF7JCMSD72VVQGNQI/

                                          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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