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  • D Daniel

    "Anti-Semitism" is a deliberately formulated propagandistic term. Citation upon request.

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    jon-nyc
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    @Daniel said:

    "Anti-Semitism" is a deliberately formulated propagandistic term. Citation upon request.

    The first recorded use was by a Jew in 1860 but the term was popularized two decades later by German agitator Wilhelm Marr who founded the ‘league of antisemites’.

    I agree it was for propaganda purposes. At the time Judenhass sounded religious and crude while ‘antisemitism’ sounded modern and scientific. Again, in that moment. But that was a time when scientists regularly classified and characterized differences in races and it was considered science.

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      For the record, I'm glad you're here.

      And why should I not share this now.

      You're the only reason I'm here.

      I mean still posting.

      A long time ago (a long time ago and I don't remember the details), I had a disagreement (ok,now I remember the details but discretion forbids revisit in public) and it was the one and only time I was in fact going to walk away over a disagreement from my first day at TNCR until this day.

      You told me "I think the forum is a better place with you here" and that was what changed my mind.

      I'd miss the forum (and the hobby) as well as the fact I'd be bereft if I had excommunicated myself with this group who "speak my language."

      So I have since held an abiding appreciation for your posts here.

      'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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        Thanks. I continue to believe the forum is a better place with you here.

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          Daniel
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          ♥️

          'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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          • J jon-nyc

            @Bernard said:

            @jon-nyc Christophobia appears in all the major dictionaries. The fact that you are traversing semantic diversions to justify your blanket disdain of a large group of people raises question about your intentions with this thread. It sounds like bigotry.

            You’re missing the key point. My beef isn’t with a people, it’s with a set of ideas.

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            @jon-nyc Well there is nothing worse in Islam (the religion of peace as you say) than in Christianity and especially Judaism. The old testament is full of violence and an angry, malevolent god. At least Christianity starts with the "new" or 11th commandment.

            The bottom line is they are all Abrahamic religions. People bring themselves to religion. Those that want to find peace and inspiration for a better life in their religious books will find it. Those that want to find justification for hatred and war will find it. No set of religious ideas is exempt from this.

            The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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              Bernard
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              On the subject, Lewis Black's take on the old and new testaments are well worth a listen...

              Link to video

              The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                jon-nyc
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                Bernard, remember who you’re speaking to. I have a pretty solid track record criticizing Christianity and Judaism. I can’t really be whattabouted in this.

                But the numbers are what they are. If we had to protect public spaces from mostly Christian fundamentalists instead of Muslim jihaddists I would be straightforwardly and openly critical about it.

                And I suspect I’d find more people here in agreement with me as I did.

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                  Bernard, remember who you’re speaking to. I have a pretty solid track record criticizing Christianity and Judaism. I can’t really be whattabouted in this.

                  But the numbers are what they are. If we had to protect public spaces from mostly Christian fundamentalists instead of Muslim jihaddists I would be straightforwardly and openly critical about it.

                  And I suspect I’d find more people here in agreement with me as I did.

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                  Bernard
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                  @jon-nyc OK. So you finally wrote, "Mulsim jihaddists". That's a whole tone different than your OP where you took swipe at all Muslims.

                  The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                    I said Muslim (adjective) jihadists (noun). The latter being a descriptive term for the subset of Muslims who carry these beliefs. And yes I know that some people define ‘jihhad’ differently. But I assume in context you knew I wasn’t describing people who are merely dealing with an internal struggle with their faith. That group won’t be indiscriminately killing civilians while in religious ecstasy.

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                      I said Muslim (adjective) jihadists (noun). The latter being a descriptive term for the subset of Muslims who carry these beliefs. And yes I know that some people define ‘jihhad’ differently. But I assume in context you knew I wasn’t describing people who are merely dealing with an internal struggle with their faith. That group won’t be indiscriminately killing civilians while in religious ecstasy.

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                      @jon-nyc I totally understood that, jon. And I'm saying that that conveys a very different tone (as in better) than your OP, where you wrote, "keep the Christmas market safe from the Religion of Peace™".

                      The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                        Fair enough

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                        • J jon-nyc

                          Thanks. I continue to believe the forum is a better place with you here.

                          ShiroKuroS
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                          ShiroKuro
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                          @jon-nyc said:

                          I continue to believe the forum is a better place with you here.

                          Agreed.

                          And this forum is a better place with all of us here.

                          ♥

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