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An invitation for the pianists of WTF

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  • AdagioMA AdagioM

    I’ve played that first version before, a long time ago. I haven’t really played the piano in a decade, maybe?

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    ShiroKuro
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    @AdagioM said:

    I haven’t really played the piano in a decade, maybe?

    I guess I didn't know that! Do you still have your piano at home?

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      CHAS
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      Got a copy of Chopin's Wiosna. Started it, only to learn that I am worse than ever. Have not played in too many years and not getting any younger, but I am enjoying it. Bob isn't. πŸ™‚
      I don't like it very much. Will see.

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      • C CHAS

        Got a copy of Chopin's Wiosna. Started it, only to learn that I am worse than ever. Have not played in too many years and not getting any younger, but I am enjoying it. Bob isn't. πŸ™‚
        I don't like it very much. Will see.

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        ShiroKuro
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        @CHAS said:
        I don't like it very much. Will see.

        The funny thing is, a lot of pianists at PT don’t rally like it either. I’m kind of blah about it myself πŸ˜…

        But nevertheless I plan to polish it (mostly) and upload a recording next month.

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          AndyD
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          #17

          You don't have to like it, just play it better than Ax & Jon
          😘

          Ventosa viri restabit

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          🀣 😊
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            Bernard
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            I've taken a quick look at this piece. To me, the big challenge is it's repetitiveness, but the deeper one digs, the more one finds. Isn't that always the case?

            Chopin ends a number of his minor pieces with a major chord. In the case of Wiosna, it can be understood by reading the lyrics of the song (if you can find a decent translation!).

            The lyrics from LeiderNet (translated far better than my browser's translate function which made a mish-mash of it):

            Droplets of dew sparkle,
            A spring whispers in the open field;
            Hidden in heather,
            Somewhere a heifer's bell rings.

            Pretty gentle open field
            Picture views form happily,
            All around, flowers release fragrance,
            And bushes bloom.

            Graze and wander, my little herd,
            I sit by a rock,
            A sweet song that I like
            I'll sing for myself.

            A pleasant quiet abandonded place!
            Yet some regrets wander in my mind,
            my heart mourns,
            and a tear forms in my eye.

            The tear escapes my eye,
            Within me sings a stream,
            To me from above,
            A skylark responds.

            His wings he spreads,
            Barely visible to the eye,
            Higher, higer...
            Lost already among the clouds.

            Above prairies and fields he flies,
            Still singing his song;
            And the song from the ground
            He takes up into the sky!

            The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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            • A AndyD

              You don't have to like it, just play it better than Ax & Jon
              😘

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              ShiroKuro
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              #19

              @AndyD said:
              You don't have to like it, just play it better than Ax & Jon

              Not likely!! πŸ˜‚

              @Bernard that’s lovely, thank you for posting it!

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                AndyD
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                Do people usually play it straight?
                Hough effectively ignores 'a tempo', sings out a nice counter in bars 15 to 32.
                And then his final 8 bars, love his interpretation...

                20260607_192541.jpg

                Ventosa viri restabit

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                • A AndyD

                  Do people usually play it straight?
                  Hough effectively ignores 'a tempo', sings out a nice counter in bars 15 to 32.
                  And then his final 8 bars, love his interpretation...

                  20260607_192541.jpg

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                  Bernard
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                  @AndyD said:

                  Do people usually play it straight?

                  What do you mean by this?

                  PS, I've stopped listening to interpretations temporarily.

                  The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                  • B Bernard

                    @AndyD said:

                    Do people usually play it straight?

                    What do you mean by this?

                    PS, I've stopped listening to interpretations temporarily.

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                    AndyD
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                    @Bernard said:
                    Do people usually play it straight?

                    What do you mean by this?

                    Pretty much as written and therefore all pretty much the same. I imagine like the first YouTube video I linked.

                    Ventosa viri restabit

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                    • ShiroKuroS ShiroKuro

                      @AdagioM said:

                      I haven’t really played the piano in a decade, maybe?

                      I guess I didn't know that! Do you still have your piano at home?

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                      AdagioM
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                      @ShiroKuro Yes, I still have my Weinbach grand at home, and still love it. I use it for choir practice, finding my notes. And occasionally try to play it. It also makes a perfect black/white balanced background for photographing yarn. Ha!

                      I sold my digital piano several years ago. Roland FP something or other. I like the way sound runs through me from my acoustic piano way better.

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                      • A AndyD

                        @Bernard said:
                        Do people usually play it straight?

                        What do you mean by this?

                        Pretty much as written and therefore all pretty much the same. I imagine like the first YouTube video I linked.

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                        Bernard
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                        @AndyD I don't think anything by Chopin should be played 'all pretty much the same'.

                        The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                        • AdagioMA AdagioM

                          @ShiroKuro Yes, I still have my Weinbach grand at home, and still love it. I use it for choir practice, finding my notes. And occasionally try to play it. It also makes a perfect black/white balanced background for photographing yarn. Ha!

                          I sold my digital piano several years ago. Roland FP something or other. I like the way sound runs through me from my acoustic piano way better.

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                          ShiroKuro
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                          @AdagioM said:
                          I sold my digital piano several years ago. Roland FP something or other. I like the way sound runs through me from my acoustic piano way better.

                          Same!

                          When we moved from Japan back to the U.S., for a long time (7 years?) a digital was all I had (apartment life). After I finished grad school, I kept the digital even though I had two different uprights (not at the same time), both were kind of crummy, but I always played the acoustic pianos, even though they were not the greatest instruments.

                          But when I bought my grand, I finally sold the digital. I knew I would never play it.

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                            AndyD
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                            I passed Grade 6 with a distinction in spring of 1978 so would have just turned 16 years old. I recall it would take a year to learn four pieces plus the new scales & arpeggios.
                            I miss my old piano teacher, Miss Armstrong.

                            I've kept a 'five-bar-gate' count of my practice over this last month since printing the music. I'm off to our London flat again, so no piano for a week😞; decided to record my efforts so far.

                            This is the 79th time I've played it through. I still need the music for some bars so it doesn't flow, and there are three mistakes. I'd like to think Miss Armstrong would say "it's coming along nicely"

                            Link to video

                            Ventosa viri restabit

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                            • A AndyD

                              I passed Grade 6 with a distinction in spring of 1978 so would have just turned 16 years old. I recall it would take a year to learn four pieces plus the new scales & arpeggios.
                              I miss my old piano teacher, Miss Armstrong.

                              I've kept a 'five-bar-gate' count of my practice over this last month since printing the music. I'm off to our London flat again, so no piano for a week😞; decided to record my efforts so far.

                              This is the 79th time I've played it through. I still need the music for some bars so it doesn't flow, and there are three mistakes. I'd like to think Miss Armstrong would say "it's coming along nicely"

                              Link to video

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                              ShiroKuro
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                              @AndyD said:

                              I've kept a 'five-bar-gate' count of my practice over this last month since printing the music.

                              What does that mean?

                              I'd like to think Miss Armstrong would say "it's coming along nicely"

                              I agree! Sounds great!!

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                                Thanks. It's been interesting.
                                Without a teacher who would have stressed the fingering needed in the first lesson (e.g. to get legato on the octaves) it took me probably 40 attempts before I adopted most of the suggested notation.
                                I can play it faster & slower but not without a fumble or two because I need the dots. Another 20 times for memory?

                                Five-bar-gate counting:
                                5028.jpg

                                Ventosa viri restabit

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