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    Daniel
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    #7

    Link to video

    I can't vouch for this. I didn't watch it. But is says data center emissions are making people ill. I've seen this point made by about 50 sources.

    It is definitely rational to oppose them/ the way this is being done.

    It's clearly top down and "screw the public" decision making.

    'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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      CHAS
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      Festus is in the French part of Missouri. They are known for being contrary.
      The first European settlement west of the Mississippi was in Ste. Genivieve, south of Festus.

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        Daniel
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        I don't know there was a French part of Missouri.

        'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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          wtg
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          Texas Republicans have a data center problem

          Data center construction is unpopular among locals, and a majority of the facilities are being proposed in red, rural counties. That puts Texas Republicans in a tough spot, as the White House has encouraged states to let the centers flourish.

          https://www.texastribune.org/2026/05/07/texas-republicans-data-centers-rural/

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            Bernard
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            It's absolutely rational. Skyrocketing utility bills for starters. Degradation of environment. Competition for scarce resources like water. For what? So billionaires can impose their idea of utopia (read "$$$") on society, which will lead to job losses, more stupidity, invasion of privacy, ad nauseam.

            The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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            • C CHAS

              Festus is in the French part of Missouri. They are known for being contrary.
              The first European settlement west of the Mississippi was in Ste. Genivieve, south of Festus.

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              @CHAS said:

              Festus is in the French part of Missouri.

              This is wrong. Festus is the sidekick in Gunsmoke…

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                There's one being built in Utah (What is it with Utah?) that's bigger than x Walmarts (I can't remember what x is but, um, many). It's going to produce enough heat and emissions to kill all of the wildlife in the valley where it is being built.

                'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                  @CHAS said:

                  Festus is in the French part of Missouri.

                  This is wrong. Festus is the sidekick in Gunsmoke…

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                  Mik
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                  @DougG said:

                  @CHAS said:

                  Festus is in the French part of Missouri.

                  This is wrong. Festus is the sidekick in Gunsmoke…

                  I wondered who was going to run with that one. There is a German part of MO. Hermann is very much so. My BIL was city manager there for a while.

                  “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                  ― Douglas Adams

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                    In Georgia…

                    https://www.politico.com/news/2026/05/08/georgia-data-centers-water-00909988

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                      Bernard
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                      Thankfully, our Governor (R) is coming out against them in NH. I wish she had also pointed out that nobody knows what they are doing, as another good reason for opposing them.

                      In an interview for "CloseUp," Ayotte declared herself no big fan of building massive data centers in New Hampshire.

                      Ayotte cites energy costs in opposing massive data centers in New Hampshire

                      Going back almost a century, if not further, stories of dystopian society were warning of the dangers that could come. What astounds me is that so many are embracing AI with open arms while allowing lunatic tech firms to call the shots without any government regulation being put in place. It really astounds me.

                      Then this...

                      Pity the poor AI datacenters facing ‘discrimination’

                      “I do guess a lot of the world gets covered in datacenters over time,” [Sam] Altman said. “But I don’t know because maybe we put them in space … I wish I had, like, more concrete answers for you, but like, we’re stumbling through this.”

                      Really!? Covering the earth with datacenters posing a possible existential threat to humanity is something we're willing to "stumble through" and accept guesses as good enough!?!? How did we ever get to this point?

                      At least one potential data center developer has hinted that data centers should have legal personhood status. Fine, then when the "intelligent" center(s) cause death (as they already have), bring them to court for murder and shut them down for depraved indifference.

                      "Tech bros" should not be calling the shots, whether they are billionaires or not.

                      The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                      • D Daniel

                        There's one being built in Utah (What is it with Utah?) that's bigger than x Walmarts (I can't remember what x is but, um, many). It's going to produce enough heat and emissions to kill all of the wildlife in the valley where it is being built.

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                        Steve Miller
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                        @Daniel

                        If that’s the one I’m thinking of it’s actually the size of Manhattan! 😱

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                          @CHAS said:

                          Festus is in the French part of Missouri.

                          This is wrong. Festus is the sidekick in Gunsmoke…

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                          DougG My bad

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