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    CHAS
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    It is great that people are using their power. Hope they continue to do that instead of feeling powerless.

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      Is it rational?
      We have had locals voting against Walmarts and Home Depots, nuclear generators, Amazon warehouses, wind generators, energy pipelines, ICE detention centers, cell towers, etc. This time, it's data centers.
      Is it rational this time?

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        Daniel
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        Ax, I am operating under the hypothetical that your question is Socratic.

        Disclaimer- I don't, in fact, know exactly how to interpret it.

        In any case, here is my reply-

        Your question implies that everything in your list previous to data centers drew opposition that was not rational.

        The following points stand out to me-

        i. It is completely rational to oppose detention centers. Studies have been done showing that these detention centers share the same architecture as slave ships and concentration camps.

        The harsh reality, also, is that they include rooms where firearms can be used to shoot people, and they contain incinerators.

        They, also, burden the infrastructure of their localities with demands for water and electricity use without urban planning is advance.

        ii. It is completely rational to oppose data centers. Please see my last point above.

        Thanks for your thought provoking question.

        'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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          Steve Miller
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          Data centers are great as long the developers pay their fair share of cost, the installations pay normal property tax, normal permit/impact fees, that there is sufficient water/power available to run the plant and/or the developer pays the full cost of the infrastructure improvement required.

          Unfortunately, a lot of data center projects don’t meet those requirements.

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            Daniel
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            Yes, but they also do have toxic emissions making residents of surrounding areas ill.

            It's my understanding at least, and I could be wrong, that there isn't enough water or electricity. Also, many parts of the country are experiencing draught. I don't disagree with you on this point.

            'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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              Daniel
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              Link to video

              I can't vouch for this. I didn't watch it. But is says data center emissions are making people ill. I've seen this point made by about 50 sources.

              It is definitely rational to oppose them/ the way this is being done.

              It's clearly top down and "screw the public" decision making.

              'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                CHAS
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                Festus is in the French part of Missouri. They are known for being contrary.
                The first European settlement west of the Mississippi was in Ste. Genivieve, south of Festus.

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                  I don't know there was a French part of Missouri.

                  'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                    Texas Republicans have a data center problem

                    Data center construction is unpopular among locals, and a majority of the facilities are being proposed in red, rural counties. That puts Texas Republicans in a tough spot, as the White House has encouraged states to let the centers flourish.

                    https://www.texastribune.org/2026/05/07/texas-republicans-data-centers-rural/

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                      It's absolutely rational. Skyrocketing utility bills for starters. Degradation of environment. Competition for scarce resources like water. For what? So billionaires can impose their idea of utopia (read "$$$") on society, which will lead to job losses, more stupidity, invasion of privacy, ad nauseam.

                      The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                        Festus is in the French part of Missouri. They are known for being contrary.
                        The first European settlement west of the Mississippi was in Ste. Genivieve, south of Festus.

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                        @CHAS said:

                        Festus is in the French part of Missouri.

                        This is wrong. Festus is the sidekick in Gunsmoke…

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