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Anybody go to a No Kings rally today?

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    CHAS
    wrote last edited by
    #19

    Strikes, etc. are too
    inconvenient for the American public. Don't think they are going to happen.

    "If you're looking for sympathy, you'll find it between s**t and syphilis in the dictionary."-David Sedaris

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      Daniel
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      #20

      I'm sad to say I have to agree.

      'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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      • wtgW wtg

        @Mik said:

        Seems a little silly since SCOTUS shut his emergency powers tariffs down and he hasn't been able to get around that. Every president in our lifetimes has tried to expand executive powers, but the guardrails are intact. If you want to protest it should be against Congress. Trump is just a symptom of that dysfunctional body.

        He’s trying to find ways around the tariffs being blocked.

        He has alienated us from our allies around the world, initiated regime change in multiple countries, staffed his cabinet with yes men and incompetents, set ICE loose to terrorize the country, eliminated jobs in government without thoughtful analysis, and is enriching himself and his friends at a scale never seen before.

        This is no way to run a country and the President and Congress are equally responsible. He, and they (by not stopping him), have created chaos and raised the risk of disaster happening at every turn. The judiciary is hanging on by the skin of its teeth.

        He is driven by self-interest, self-enrichment, and narcissism rather than a real desire to help the country. He reacts impulsively rather than thoughtfully, and he is unwilling to acknowledge that he doesn’t know everything.

        Not a fan of his “weave” style of governing. I think it is reckless and dangerous. We need an intelligent, thoughtful leader, not Don Corleone

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        Mik
        wrote last edited by Mik
        #21

        @wtg said:

        @Mik said:

        Seems a little silly since SCOTUS shut his emergency powers tariffs down and he hasn't been able to get around that. Every president in our lifetimes has tried to expand executive powers, but the guardrails are intact. If you want to protest it should be against Congress. Trump is just a symptom of that dysfunctional body.

        He’s trying to find ways around the tariffs being blocked.

        He has alienated us from our allies around the world, initiated regime change in multiple countries, staffed his cabinet with yes men and incompetents, set ICE loose to terrorize the country, eliminated jobs in government without thoughtful analysis, and is enriching himself and his friends at a scale never seen before.

        This is no way to run a country and the President and Congress are equally responsible. He, and they (by not stopping him), have created chaos and raised the risk of disaster happening at every turn. The judiciary is hanging on by the skin of its teeth.

        He is driven by self-interest, self-enrichment, and narcissism rather than a real desire to help the country. He reacts impulsively rather than thoughtfully, and he is unwilling to acknowledge that he doesn’t know everything.

        Not a fan of his “weave” style of governing. I think it is reckless and dangerous. We need an intelligent, thoughtful leader, not Don Corleone

        I'd much prefer he was not the president, but he is for a couple more years. So be it. In his favor, he has aggressively taken on problems that past presidents of both parties have just kicked down the road. While I approve of most of his policies, I don't approve of the way the administration has gone about it. I do disagree with your mischaracterization of the man. He has a lot of flaws but lack of love of country is not one of them.

        So the question becomes do you want a president who kicks the can down the road to the next guy or one who tries to solve the issues? But this no kings thing is just dumb. It's a tantrum just like the Dems refusal to fund legitimate government agencies. It's an emotional appeal and sadly it works on a lot of people. He's not a king and he knows it.

        “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
        ― Douglas Adams

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        • MikM Mik

          @wtg said:

          @Mik said:

          Seems a little silly since SCOTUS shut his emergency powers tariffs down and he hasn't been able to get around that. Every president in our lifetimes has tried to expand executive powers, but the guardrails are intact. If you want to protest it should be against Congress. Trump is just a symptom of that dysfunctional body.

          He’s trying to find ways around the tariffs being blocked.

          He has alienated us from our allies around the world, initiated regime change in multiple countries, staffed his cabinet with yes men and incompetents, set ICE loose to terrorize the country, eliminated jobs in government without thoughtful analysis, and is enriching himself and his friends at a scale never seen before.

          This is no way to run a country and the President and Congress are equally responsible. He, and they (by not stopping him), have created chaos and raised the risk of disaster happening at every turn. The judiciary is hanging on by the skin of its teeth.

          He is driven by self-interest, self-enrichment, and narcissism rather than a real desire to help the country. He reacts impulsively rather than thoughtfully, and he is unwilling to acknowledge that he doesn’t know everything.

          Not a fan of his “weave” style of governing. I think it is reckless and dangerous. We need an intelligent, thoughtful leader, not Don Corleone

          I'd much prefer he was not the president, but he is for a couple more years. So be it. In his favor, he has aggressively taken on problems that past presidents of both parties have just kicked down the road. While I approve of most of his policies, I don't approve of the way the administration has gone about it. I do disagree with your mischaracterization of the man. He has a lot of flaws but lack of love of country is not one of them.

          So the question becomes do you want a president who kicks the can down the road to the next guy or one who tries to solve the issues? But this no kings thing is just dumb. It's a tantrum just like the Dems refusal to fund legitimate government agencies. It's an emotional appeal and sadly it works on a lot of people. He's not a king and he knows it.

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          wtg
          wrote last edited by wtg
          #22

          @Mik said:

          your mischaracterization

          FIFY. NNTTM.

          We are each forming an opinion based on what he says and does, and how we interpret that. Neither of us knows what is in his heart and mind.

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            Daniel
            wrote last edited by
            #23

            Or if he has a heart or a mind.

            'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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            • MikM Mik

              @wtg said:

              @Mik said:

              Seems a little silly since SCOTUS shut his emergency powers tariffs down and he hasn't been able to get around that. Every president in our lifetimes has tried to expand executive powers, but the guardrails are intact. If you want to protest it should be against Congress. Trump is just a symptom of that dysfunctional body.

              He’s trying to find ways around the tariffs being blocked.

              He has alienated us from our allies around the world, initiated regime change in multiple countries, staffed his cabinet with yes men and incompetents, set ICE loose to terrorize the country, eliminated jobs in government without thoughtful analysis, and is enriching himself and his friends at a scale never seen before.

              This is no way to run a country and the President and Congress are equally responsible. He, and they (by not stopping him), have created chaos and raised the risk of disaster happening at every turn. The judiciary is hanging on by the skin of its teeth.

              He is driven by self-interest, self-enrichment, and narcissism rather than a real desire to help the country. He reacts impulsively rather than thoughtfully, and he is unwilling to acknowledge that he doesn’t know everything.

              Not a fan of his “weave” style of governing. I think it is reckless and dangerous. We need an intelligent, thoughtful leader, not Don Corleone

              I'd much prefer he was not the president, but he is for a couple more years. So be it. In his favor, he has aggressively taken on problems that past presidents of both parties have just kicked down the road. While I approve of most of his policies, I don't approve of the way the administration has gone about it. I do disagree with your mischaracterization of the man. He has a lot of flaws but lack of love of country is not one of them.

              So the question becomes do you want a president who kicks the can down the road to the next guy or one who tries to solve the issues? But this no kings thing is just dumb. It's a tantrum just like the Dems refusal to fund legitimate government agencies. It's an emotional appeal and sadly it works on a lot of people. He's not a king and he knows it.

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              Bernard
              wrote last edited by Bernard
              #24

              @Mik said:

              He has a lot of flaws but lack of love of country is not one of them.

              Trump's love of Trump trumps his love of country. He only cares about this country if it can serve him; his actions are ignoble. It's hard to understand how--for over a decade in public life--his vile, demeaning statements and actions, lawlessness, self aggrandizement, and self enrichment, not to mention trampling the US Constitution, are somehow trumped by his love of country. Hitler loved Germany.

              Trump is kicking decades of hell down the road. He is doing nothing to help American citizens. His national debt increase, gutting of essential services, alienation of allies, ignoring the climate crisis, stomping out medical research, installing a clown car cabinet, etc. etc. It's going to be a long, hard road to recovery when that asswipe is finally gone.

              The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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              • MikM Mik

                @wtg said:

                @Mik said:

                Seems a little silly since SCOTUS shut his emergency powers tariffs down and he hasn't been able to get around that. Every president in our lifetimes has tried to expand executive powers, but the guardrails are intact. If you want to protest it should be against Congress. Trump is just a symptom of that dysfunctional body.

                He’s trying to find ways around the tariffs being blocked.

                He has alienated us from our allies around the world, initiated regime change in multiple countries, staffed his cabinet with yes men and incompetents, set ICE loose to terrorize the country, eliminated jobs in government without thoughtful analysis, and is enriching himself and his friends at a scale never seen before.

                This is no way to run a country and the President and Congress are equally responsible. He, and they (by not stopping him), have created chaos and raised the risk of disaster happening at every turn. The judiciary is hanging on by the skin of its teeth.

                He is driven by self-interest, self-enrichment, and narcissism rather than a real desire to help the country. He reacts impulsively rather than thoughtfully, and he is unwilling to acknowledge that he doesn’t know everything.

                Not a fan of his “weave” style of governing. I think it is reckless and dangerous. We need an intelligent, thoughtful leader, not Don Corleone

                I'd much prefer he was not the president, but he is for a couple more years. So be it. In his favor, he has aggressively taken on problems that past presidents of both parties have just kicked down the road. While I approve of most of his policies, I don't approve of the way the administration has gone about it. I do disagree with your mischaracterization of the man. He has a lot of flaws but lack of love of country is not one of them.

                So the question becomes do you want a president who kicks the can down the road to the next guy or one who tries to solve the issues? But this no kings thing is just dumb. It's a tantrum just like the Dems refusal to fund legitimate government agencies. It's an emotional appeal and sadly it works on a lot of people. He's not a king and he knows it.

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                B Online
                Bernard
                wrote last edited by
                #25

                @Mik said:

                But this no kings thing is just dumb. It's a tantrum just like the Dems refusal to fund legitimate government agencies.

                What legitimate government agencies are the Democrats refusing to fund?

                The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                • wtgW wtg

                  @Mik said:

                  your mischaracterization

                  FIFY. NNTTM.

                  We are each forming an opinion based on what he says and does, and how we interpret that. Neither of us knows what is in his heart and mind.

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                  Mik
                  wrote last edited by
                  #26

                  @wtg said:

                  @Mik said:

                  your mischaracterization

                  FIFY. NNTTM.

                  We are each forming an opinion based on what he says and does, and how we interpret that. Neither of us knows what is in his heart and mind.

                  Your post would indicate you think you do.

                  “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
                  ― Douglas Adams

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                    wtg
                    wrote last edited by wtg
                    #27

                    So does yours. That's why I said we are each forming an opinion based on what we are observing. Our interpretations are at opposite ends of the spectrum. I wouldn't tell you that you are wrong, but I will tell you I couldn't disagree with you more. There is a difference.

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                      @Mik said:

                      He has a lot of flaws but lack of love of country is not one of them.

                      Trump's love of Trump trumps his love of country. He only cares about this country if it can serve him; his actions are ignoble. It's hard to understand how--for over a decade in public life--his vile, demeaning statements and actions, lawlessness, self aggrandizement, and self enrichment, not to mention trampling the US Constitution, are somehow trumped by his love of country. Hitler loved Germany.

                      Trump is kicking decades of hell down the road. He is doing nothing to help American citizens. His national debt increase, gutting of essential services, alienation of allies, ignoring the climate crisis, stomping out medical research, installing a clown car cabinet, etc. etc. It's going to be a long, hard road to recovery when that asswipe is finally gone.

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                      ShiroKuro
                      wrote last edited by
                      #28

                      @Bernard said:

                      Trump's love of Trump trumps his love of country.

                      This.

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