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  • wtgW Offline
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    wtg
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    But the DoE has work to do before then.

    https://dailynorthwestern.com/2025/02/04/campus/u-s-department-of-education-launches-investigation-into-five-universities-for-antisemitism-including-northwestern/

    When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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      Cindysphinx
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      The way they are deciding who to fire is crazy.

      My section of DOJ hires 1 or 2 law school graduates each year. Otherwise, you have to have at least four years of experience to be hired at all. The people we hire are crazy good because there is so much competition.

      If they fire our probationary attorneys (those who have been on the job for less than 2 years), we will literally be firing the best and the brightest. This might include a person who hits 2 years on Feb. 27 and who is a rock star.

      If you want to improve the federal workforce, why not do it on merit?

      And why do they have to be so joyful and incredibly mean about it, taunting people in the worst moment of their career?

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        Steve Miller
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        Improving the federal workforce was never the goal. P2025 is very clear on that point.

        The goal is to make it cheaper.

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        • ShiroKuroS ShiroKuro

          https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-order-dismantle-education-department-works-sources/story?id=118418280

          I can't see how any of this ends well.... for any of us.... there are so many "EOs" flying, there's no way legal initiates can block even a quarter of them. "going through the proper channels" is too slow...

          Also, they really need to stop making these announcements at night and on weekends.... I mean, it's strategic, I know. And it's working. I feel like half the population of the US is having rolling blood pressure strikes....

          I am going to have force myself to disconnect, at night at least.

          I'm gonna go try to play the piano and see if I can calm myself down.

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          Steve Miller
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          @ShiroKuro said in U.S. Dept of Education is the next target:

          I'm gonna go try to play the piano and see if I can calm myself down.

          Good plan. It’s only been three weeks.

          There will be time to freak out later.

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            Daniel
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            This farce with Trump and Musk is downright creepy.

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              Daniel
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              #10

              Link to video

              Who elected him?

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              • S Steve Miller

                @ShiroKuro said in U.S. Dept of Education is the next target:

                I'm gonna go try to play the piano and see if I can calm myself down.

                Good plan. It’s only been three weeks.

                There will be time to freak out later.

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                ShiroKuro
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                @Steve-Miller said in U.S. Dept of Education is the next target:

                There will be time to freak out later.

                I don't know, I feel like we should probably be freaking out now. I'm afraid things are happening that can't easily be undone.

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                  pique
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                  The longer we sit on our hands waiting to see if someone or something--like conventional legal levers--are going to put a stop to this, the sooner everything will collapse. Because this has been 70 years in the making, and now that the oligarchy has their hands on the government, they are not going to let go. There won't be fair elections. There won't be obedience to court orders. We need to stop thinking within the established paradigm and recognize that we have to take our country back and get rid of these people by any means necessary. That I say this doesn't mean I have any answers. But I do know that waiting and seeing isn't it. I fear we are on the precipice of all dissonant voices being shut down. While we can still see what is happening, we need to act.

                  The best I can come up with is a nationwide general strike. Anyone else have any ideas?

                  fear is the thief of dreams

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                    Daniel
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                    Link to video

                    Listen to what this kid says here. Could he be more rude?

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                    • P pique

                      The longer we sit on our hands waiting to see if someone or something--like conventional legal levers--are going to put a stop to this, the sooner everything will collapse. Because this has been 70 years in the making, and now that the oligarchy has their hands on the government, they are not going to let go. There won't be fair elections. There won't be obedience to court orders. We need to stop thinking within the established paradigm and recognize that we have to take our country back and get rid of these people by any means necessary. That I say this doesn't mean I have any answers. But I do know that waiting and seeing isn't it. I fear we are on the precipice of all dissonant voices being shut down. While we can still see what is happening, we need to act.

                      The best I can come up with is a nationwide general strike. Anyone else have any ideas?

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                      wtg
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                      #14

                      @pique said in U.S. Dept of Education is the next target:

                      The longer we sit on our hands waiting to see if someone or something--like conventional legal levers--are going to put a stop to this, the sooner everything will collapse. Because this has been 70 years in the making, and now that the oligarchy has their hands on the government, they are not going to let go. There won't be fair elections. There won't be obedience to court orders. We need to stop thinking within the established paradigm and recognize that we have to take our country back and get rid of these people by any means necessary. That I say this doesn't mean I have any answers. But I do know that waiting and seeing isn't it. I fear we are on the precipice of all dissonant voices being shut down. While we can still see what is happening, we need to act.

                      The best I can come up with is a nationwide general strike. Anyone else have any ideas?

                      Some interesting discussion going on at Bluesky with Mark Cuban. He's trying to get Democrats to change strategies. Some great ideas, I think.

                      https://bsky.app/profile/mcuban.bsky.social

                      But maybe not quite exactly what you had in mind. You're probably looking for something more targeted to the average American who feels the country slipping away. I have had some thoughts about that, but they aren't repeatable.

                      I'll try to work on something more productive.

                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                        wtg
                        wrote on last edited by wtg
                        #15

                        Some good ideas:

                        https://cdapress.com/news/2025/feb/12/opinion-questions-for-republicans/

                        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                          pique
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                          That's weird that that letter to the editor comes from Idaho. One of the most regressive states in the country.

                          fear is the thief of dreams

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                            wtg
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                            #17

                            About Idaho Democrats. Brief bio for Evan:

                            https://idahodems.org/meet-the-idaho-democrats/

                            When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                              Mark
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                              This is really scary.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-desperately-tries-to-rehire-staff-after-purge-at-nuclear-agency/ar-AA1z4q5h?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ASTS&cvid=203f1657ea7a422b99e37a9b8c562596&ei=61

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                                wtg
                                wrote on last edited by wtg
                                #19

                                @Mark No kidding. @CHAS posted an article in the thread I started about this very topic. From his link:

                                Members of Congress made their concerns about the NNSA firings known to the Energy Department, a Hill staffer told CNN. A person with knowledge of the matter told CNN that senators visited Energy Sec. Chris Wright to express concern about the NNSA cuts.

                                My dad used to work at Argonne National Lab, and for a number of years he was on loan to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. That agency keeps an eye on nuclear reactors and other civilian nuclear uses. He took his job very seriously. He'd be appalled to hear this is happening on the military side of the nuclear equation.

                                When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                  Mark
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                                  I used to scream at the top of my lungs that we should not be ratcheting up the power of the executive branch.

                                  However, I never thought it would get this bad.

                                  A bootlicking legislative and judiciary is part of the current situation.

                                  A perfect storm that seemingly has the ability to destroy this country.

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                                  • M Mark

                                    I used to scream at the top of my lungs that we should not be ratcheting up the power of the executive branch.

                                    However, I never thought it would get this bad.

                                    A bootlicking legislative and judiciary is part of the current situation.

                                    A perfect storm that seemingly has the ability to destroy this country.

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                                    ShiroKuro
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                                    @Mark said in U.S. Dept of Education is the next target:

                                    A perfect storm that seemingly has the ability to destroy this country.

                                    Yep.

                                    I would imagine that America is at its most vulnerable right now from outside forces. (To say nothing of the threats from within)

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                                      Daniel
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                                      #22

                                      Link to video

                                      Here's a Nazi.

                                      And Trump just sits there when his kid tells him he's "not the real president" on an open mic.

                                      Edit, sorry, this video is about how Musk is a serial con artist.

                                      I meant to post one showing Musk's Nazi salute.

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                                      • M Mark

                                        This is really scary.

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-desperately-tries-to-rehire-staff-after-purge-at-nuclear-agency/ar-AA1z4q5h?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ASTS&cvid=203f1657ea7a422b99e37a9b8c562596&ei=61

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                                        wtg
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                                        #23

                                        @Mark said in U.S. Dept of Education is the next target:

                                        This is really scary.

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-desperately-tries-to-rehire-staff-after-purge-at-nuclear-agency/ar-AA1z4q5h?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ASTS&cvid=203f1657ea7a422b99e37a9b8c562596&ei=61

                                        It gets worse:

                                        In an email sent to employees at NNSA and obtained by NBC News, officials wrote, “The termination letters for some NNSA probationary employees are being rescinded, but we do not have a good way to get in touch with those personnel.”

                                        The individuals the letter refers to had been fired on Thursday and lost access to their federal government email accounts. NNSA, which is within the Department of Energy and oversees the nation’s nuclear stockpile, cannot reach these employees directly and is now asking recipients of the email, “Please work with your supervisors to send this information (once you get it) to people’s personal contact emails.”

                                        https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-wants-un-fire-nuclear-safety-workers-cant-figure-rcna192345

                                        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                        • C Cindysphinx

                                          The way they are deciding who to fire is crazy.

                                          My section of DOJ hires 1 or 2 law school graduates each year. Otherwise, you have to have at least four years of experience to be hired at all. The people we hire are crazy good because there is so much competition.

                                          If they fire our probationary attorneys (those who have been on the job for less than 2 years), we will literally be firing the best and the brightest. This might include a person who hits 2 years on Feb. 27 and who is a rock star.

                                          If you want to improve the federal workforce, why not do it on merit?

                                          And why do they have to be so joyful and incredibly mean about it, taunting people in the worst moment of their career?

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                                          wtg
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                                          @Cindysphinx

                                          Saw this info on the Federal News Network website. Don't know if there's any info you and your colleagues are not already aware of, but FWIW...

                                          There is help for probationary employees who were terminated

                                          Federal employment attorneys say probationary employees who were fired can apply for unemployment insurance and have other options for appeal.

                                          https://federalnewsnetwork.com/hiring-retention/2025/02/there-is-help-for-probationary-employees-who-were-terminated/

                                          When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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