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    Daniel
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    I think national security is a pretext to attempt to censor certain political content.

    So sue me.

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    • C Cindysphinx

      I love TikTok. And I don’t value national security. This country elected trump twice, so this country doesn’t value national security either.

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      Bernard
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      @Cindysphinx Where's the evidence for your claim that Americans don't value national security? It is very likely that most of Trump's supporters value it quite highly, but are too ill informed (to put it a nice way) to know the threat. They aren't the brightest bulbs in the country, imo. Surprised to hear you say you don't value national security, but I suspect that's just emotions. It does put you on the same side of the ledger as those you say don't value it.

      The way I see it: Trump, when he was in the oval office, supported a ban on TikTok. Biden supports a ban. Congress bipartisanly supports a ban. Does anyone really think the CCP can be trusted? Not me.

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        Lots of computer, Internet stuff from China fine. Some not.

        It makes sense to me.

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          I think national security is a pretext to attempt to censor certain political content.

          So sue me.

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            Richard Clarke had some interesting things to say about TikTok and other vulnerabilities.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/richard-clarke-hypocritical-for-congress-to-go-after-tik-tok/vi-AA1xqHL8?ocid=socialshare

            Ask yourself this, Michael. Would China allow the United States to have an app running on half the phones in China collecting data about the Chinese and giving the Chinese the truth about the news? No, they wouldn't. And we know they wouldn't because the don't. They ban Facebook, they ban Instagram, they ban X. They know the power of these things. They would never have allowed, but that we've allowed here.

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              Link to video

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              • D Daniel

                I think national security is a pretext to attempt to censor certain political content.

                So sue me.

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                jon-nyc
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                @Daniel said in Where the TikTok refugees are going:

                I think national security is a pretext to attempt to censor certain political content.

                So sue me.

                Most adult TikTok addicts have some sort of cope where they pretend this isn’t about national security. But remember congress is fine with all the content if only bytednce were to disconnect it from the CCP and sell it to an American company. The law is content neutral.

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                  I tried TikTok the app. I downloaded it and tried it out. I had a hard time navigating it. I have a hard time with the Instagram interface too fwiw. So I deleted it.

                  Still, jon, I've followed this controversy. I don't think it's national security. As I said Temu collects the same information. I think national security is the obstensible reason. I think the government wants to censor the political content of TikTok. Just my opinion.

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                    https://x.com/drewpavlou/status/1881032001345794516?s=46

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                      Steve Miller
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                      Don’t all websites do that sort of tracking?

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                        Don’t all websites do that sort of tracking?

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                        ShiroKuro
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                        @Steve-Miller mostly likely, yes.

                        FB tracks your "off FB" activity. You have to opt out, which is the biggest load of BS.
                        Here are the instructions I used:
                        Open the Facebook app or website
                        Select your profile picture
                        Go to Settings & Privacy
                        Select Settings
                        Select Your information and permissions
                        Select Your activity off Meta
                        Select Manage Future Activity
                        Select Disconnect future activity
                        Select Continue
                        Select Confirm
                        To clear your history, you can:
                        Go to the Off-Facebook Activity screen
                        Select Clear History
                        To turn off your active status, you can:
                        Go to Settings
                        Select Active Status
                        Select Turn off

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                          Here's a non-technical version of what goes on behind the scenes.

                          https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics-computers/privacy/tiktok-tracks-you-across-the-web-even-if-you-dont-use-app-a4383537813/

                          And something from Wired:

                          https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-data-privacy/

                          Don’t all websites do that sort of tracking?

                          Yea. Except TikTok has the connection to the Chinese government.

                          Now that we're in the new administration and the tech bros are bowing to TFG, who knows what information Microsoft, Facebook, and Google will pass along to the government.

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                            I'm repeating myself but Temu another a Chinese tech company collects the isame information as TikTok.

                            All Chinese companies have a connection to the Chinese government.

                            All American companies have a connection to the American government.

                            American tech companies, the Internet itself, Google, etc. were invented by the US military and US intelligence.

                            My personal opinion is you can toggle on and off anything you want and it won't make a difference.

                            Listen to a video by a true expert (e g. Edward Snowdon) and you'll inevitably hear cellphones spy on you and there's no way you can stop them.

                            You used to be able to take the battery out and the tracking would stop. My understanding is this doesn't work now even in the rare event you have a phone will a removable battery.

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                              I'm repeating myself but Temu another a Chinese tech company collects the isame information as TikTok.

                              All Chinese companies have a connection to the Chinese government.

                              All American companies have a connection to the American government.

                              American tech companies, the Internet itself, Google, etc. were invented by the US military and US intelligence.

                              My personal opinion is you can toggle on and off anything you want and it won't make a difference.

                              Listen to a video by a true expert (e g. Edward Snowdon) and you'll inevitably hear cellphones spy on you and there's no way you can stop them.

                              You used to be able to take the battery out and the tracking would stop. My understanding is this doesn't work now even in the rare event you have a phone will a removable battery.

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                              Axtremus
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                              @Daniel said in Where the TikTok refugees are going:

                              ... the Internet itself, ... were invented by the US military and US intelligence.

                              Hmm ... maybe that can be used to scare the CCP into not using the Internet at all.

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                                Lol, Ax!

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