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  • JodiJ Jodi

    That’s the other one I bought, lol. He did a better job for old eyes in the sheet music for The Messenger - the notes and staffs are bigger on the printout for that than they are for this one. You should try The Messenger. It’s really not harder than this one, except that the speed is in the left hand instead of the right, and you can play it much more slowly than he plays it, and it’s still beautiful. I feel like some of these modern piano composers that I like have a much bigger reach than I do, and I have to think about how to best do the fingering, as I am unable to do what they do (there are a few awkward reaches in The messenger).

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    @Jodi said in Grand Obsession:

    I feel like some of these modern piano composers that I like have a much bigger reach than I do,

    Yep. I play music by Alexis Ffrench, David Lanz, and George Winston. All of these guys are quite tall, and as far as I can tell from videos, they all have massive hands.

    😑

    I’ll check out the Messenger.

    I need to pick my next pieces to work on after the concert is over …

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      Piano tuner booked for next Friday, retired from London Steinway so fingers crossed.

      Meanwhile our piano stool, (chewed by a teething dog years ago) got some TLC this week:
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      All four legs chewed in two places were filled and then stained

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        You'd never notice now

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          @AndyD said in Grand Obsession:

          Looking at the Korg website, this was new:
          https://www.musicradar.com/news/korg-chopin-piano-poetry?origin=serp_auto

          From that link:

          The first of Poetry’s two piano tones is based on Chopin’s 1843 Pleyel piano, which had 80 keys and was pitched at 430Hz rather than 440Hz, the modern tuning standard. This gives it a distinct tone that promises to be authentic to the one that Chopin would have experienced.

          Ha! Maybe @Nina can get a digital Pleyel....

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          @wtg ❤️
          I still miss my Pleyel...

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            @AndyD wow! That’s an impressive repair job! Did you do it?

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              Thanks, started with some trepidation but thought, well, surely it won't be worse 😄
              Hardest was getting the original shape when sanding the filler (two lots of filler, the chewing was so deep).
              And I never have exactly the right colour stain... oak, redwood, dark tudor. Usually mix them, trial and error.

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                Anyone know how to cure a rocking motion of an adjustable duet bench? Though it adjusts up and down fine, it has loosened somehow over the last 30 years. If you sit in the middle and press down left hand right hand it rocks.

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                  Depends on the manufacturer, Jansen will sell kits to replace worn bushings. Flip it over and try to determine where the movement occurs. Sometimes it is just a matter of loose screws/nuts and bolts.

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                    20241123_075110.jpg

                    You'd never notice now

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                    @AndyD
                    Very nice restoration work, Andy.

                    Big Al

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                      @AndyD
                      Very nice restoration work, Andy.

                      Big Al

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                      @Big_Al said in Grand Obsession:

                      @AndyD
                      Very nice restoration work, Andy.

                      Big Al

                      Indeed.

                      And why is it that dogs go after piano benches? Our first golden chewed off the corner of the lid on the piano bench (it wasn't an adjustable style of bench). The fellow who did the repair didn't do nearly as a good a job as @AndyD did on his bench.

                      When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                        Stumbled upon this recent video titled "Valentina Lisitsa Meets Grotrian".

                        Valentina Lisitsa visit us at PianoWorks over the weekend and during a tour of our workshop, she encountered a Grotrian Charis model 208 Studio. We recently retired this piano from concert duty and the pedals were taken apart while we re-sprayed the matte ebony finish...hence the no pedal challenge.

                        She plays for about 7 minutes, and then talks about her reaction to the piano.

                        Link to video

                        When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                          Really like this demo, and her comment "It doesn't feel like a toy piano".

                          Her technique is to be envied; yet, dare I say she often plays like she has a train to catch?

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                            I believe the video of Muffin and me was made at Plays88Keys' piano party. Jon was there and he's in the video. Do you recall, Jon?

                            She had a Steinway at the time, so you're probably right that it was a New York Steinway.

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                            @Mary-Anna said in Grand Obsession:

                            I believe the video of Muffin and me was made at Plays88Keys' piano party. Jon was there and he's in the video. Do you recall, Jon?

                            She had a Steinway at the time, so you're probably right that it was a New York Steinway.

                            I agree. I was there with Anthony at that one, in Richmond.

                            Crazy economist who likes to write about higher education.

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                              @Mary-Anna said in Grand Obsession:

                              I believe the video of Muffin and me was made at Plays88Keys' piano party. Jon was there and he's in the video. Do you recall, Jon?

                              She had a Steinway at the time, so you're probably right that it was a New York Steinway.

                              I agree. I was there with Anthony at that one, in Richmond.

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                              @Piano-Dad said in Grand Obsession:

                              I agree. I was there with Anthony at that one, in Richmond.

                              And there are videos to prove it...👏

                              When the world wearies and society ceases to satisfy, there is always the garden - Minnie Aumônier

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                                Really like this demo, and her comment "It doesn't feel like a toy piano".

                                Her technique is to be envied; yet, dare I say she often plays like she has a train to catch?

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                                @AndyD hey if i could play that fast, i'd do it too. I hope they sent this video to the grotrian factory--they'd be so gratified.

                                fear is the thief of dreams

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                                  The three hinges on the sheet music ledge are loose and if the fallboard is closed it sags and sits on the keys.

                                  Is there something out there the opposite of oil/grease/lubricant?
                                  Something to gunk the three hinges in order to stiffen them? Maybe use a tiny dab of a glue on each?

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                                    @AndyD maybe you just need to replace the actual hardware part, the hinge? That should be too difficult I would think??

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                                      If you can take them apart and get the hinge pin out, sometimes putting slight bends in the pin before putting back in does the trick. I had heard some old-timers recommend using linseed oil which will gum up over time.

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                                        Those tiny flat head screws can be tricky to rescrew, so first I'll try a small bowl of teak oil partially evaporated which looks gunky. But yes I recall using linseed oil on the daughters' new cricket bats and it would be better suited. Then bending the pins.

                                        Thanks to you both.

                                        Piano was tuned this morning and it sounds lovely; have been playing on and off all day.

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                                          Crystallised teak oil on a putty knife and applied with bradawl and fingernails.
                                          Realised I also have pure tung oil which probably goes stickier than linseed so if this fails that's next.
                                          Cheers
                                          Andy

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