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    I can agree with all of it completely without the need to conjour empathy for a psychopath.

    'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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      It’s all about power. Hanging on to power. And if you can’t manage it yourself, your party is there to do it for you, in your name. Ick.

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        I see it in people who aren’t psychopaths or particularly powerful. But they have trouble accepting that their days of contributing are over. Often, especially with aging academics, it’s part of their identity and they don’t know what they’d be without the role.

        I think that might be part of the story with Biden, Grassley, McConnell, and so many more. But with them you have the added complication of a consort of senior staff who aren’t ready to retire but would lose their position if the top guy goes.

        One illustrative quote from the Jake Tapper book on the Biden administration was in reference to his senior advisors: “They’re living the first line of their obituary right now.” Of course they will resist giving it up. I think that explains why fake polling data was shown to Joe convincing him that he and only he could beat Trump. They needed him to run again so they could keep their influence.

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          The elderly are vulnerable like the young are vulnerable. Just a fact of life. These politicians have their own reasons for hanging on to their positions. I don't doubt it. But I think we've all seen these politicians in a bad way in Congress with it in session and people whispering in their ear lines for them to repeat.

          'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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            I see it in people who aren’t psychopaths or particularly powerful. But they have trouble accepting that their days of contributing are over. Often, especially with aging academics, it’s part of their identity and they don’t know what they’d be without the role.

            I think that might be part of the story with Biden, Grassley, McConnell, and so many more. But with them you have the added complication of a consort of senior staff who aren’t ready to retire but would lose their position if the top guy goes.

            One illustrative quote from the Jake Tapper book on the Biden administration was in reference to his senior advisors: “They’re living the first line of their obituary right now.” Of course they will resist giving it up. I think that explains why fake polling data was shown to Joe convincing him that he and only he could beat Trump. They needed him to run again so they could keep their influence.

            ShiroKuroS
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            @jon-nyc said:

            But with them you have the added complication of a consort of senior staff who aren’t ready to retire but would lose their position if the top guy goes.

            Yep.

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              Link to video

              Yes. Chuck Schumer (and Jeffries) should resign from leadership, or not get the votes.

              These two are 100% out of touch with the mainstream of American voters.

              'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                It’s all about power. Hanging on to power. And if you can’t manage it yourself, your party is there to do it for you, in your name. Ick.

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                @AdagioM said:

                It’s all about power. Hanging on to power. And if you can’t manage it yourself, your party is there to do it for you, in your name. Ick.

                Yep. Well said.

                It I'm being blunt, it's sinister.

                'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                  Link to video

                  'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                    Apparently he has some very not progressive policy positions (I'll have to look again to make sure I'm remembering what these are), the House AOC types have sold out already (because she and some like her have an agenda of moving into leadership), and Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb are going nowhere.

                    The last time I remember Congress being functional was during the Reagan administrations. So if it ends up being a mess I won't be surprised.

                    He is a gifted politician though.

                    I don't feel sanguine.

                    'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                      Yeah it was really the rise of populist pressure from talk radio and cable news that changed the incentive structure for individual congressmen. And some of the earmark reforms of the 90s hurt too, whatever merits those reforms might have had.

                      Now add social media and it’s hopeless. Too many people view their congressional seat as something that can serve their career rather than viewing service in the institution an end in itself. It gives them a national platform to preen. You find it on both sides.

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                        Yeah it was really the rise of populist pressure from talk radio and cable news that changed the incentive structure for individual congressmen. And some of the earmark reforms of the 90s hurt too, whatever merits those reforms might have had.

                        Now add social media and it’s hopeless. Too many people view their congressional seat as something that can serve their career rather than viewing service in the institution an end in itself. It gives them a national platform to preen. You find it on both sides.

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