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  • AndyDA
    AndyDA
    AndyD
    wrote on last edited by AndyD
    #2

    What do you think about the verbing of nouns? It's not a new phenomenon of course, but some are like nails on a blackboard.

    Apparently the latest, as an example: you are seated in a restaurant and the waiter will come over and ask
    "Have you been menued?

    Ventosa viri restabit

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      Daniel
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      #3

      I would pack up and leave.

      I'd stand up. I'd smile.

      I'd say I'm leaving. Excuse me. Goodbye.

      'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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      • AndyDA
        AndyDA
        AndyD
        wrote on last edited by
        #4

        Sometimes you almost need an English translator:

        "Bear with, I'm cubing to improve my performability"

        Nails, blackboard

        Ventosa viri restabit

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        • AndyDA AndyD

          Sometimes you almost need an English translator:

          "Bear with, I'm cubing to improve my performability"

          Nails, blackboard

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          Steve Miller
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          @AndyD

          Yikes! What does that even mean?

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          • C
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            CHAS
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            I usually manage to leave when people speak their own private languages.

            Illegitimi non carborundum

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            • D
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              Daniel
              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              As well you should.

              'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                Daniel
                wrote on last edited by Daniel
                #8

                @andyd This reminds me. "Gifting" is actually a word that is one of my pet peeves.

                Yes, a lot of people like this word, and so many people use it that it's English today.

                Yes, most of us here use it.

                I know.

                But I'm not sure how long it will last, or in other words, I don't think it will last. I give it 10 years.

                But who knows.

                Anyway...

                You give a gift.

                So what this word means after you take it apart and put it together again is:

                You gift a gift.

                On a different note, one of my best critics said of my English the following:

                "Educated speech has an unusual robotic quality."

                I concluded that this person had a limited intelligence, poor social awareness, and a lack of social experience.

                I guess I had the option of thinking "FU" but it was such a unique and amusing comment.

                'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                • B
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                  Bernard
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  And no flies! It’s so bona to vada you! Your lovely eek and your riah! Sharda that we don’t palare more often!

                  The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                  • AndyDA
                    AndyDA
                    AndyD
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    Gifting could be replaced with presenting.
                    So you'd present a present.

                    Ventosa viri restabit

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                    • ShiroKuroS
                      ShiroKuroS
                      ShiroKuro
                      wrote on last edited by ShiroKuro
                      #11

                      I have always hated “gifted” ever since I first heard it verbed. Like when someone uses it in the “she gifted me this book” sense.

                      For some reason it sounds less personal to me, like the receiver doesn’t actually have a relationship with the gift giver.

                      Separate from that I generally like verbing.

                      It all depends on the noun that gets verbed.

                      😅

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                        RealPlayer
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                        #12

                        And then, of course, there’s REgifting.

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                        • R RealPlayer

                          And then, of course, there’s REgifting.

                          ShiroKuroS
                          ShiroKuroS
                          ShiroKuro
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #13

                          @RealPlayer said:

                          REgifting.

                          So, that word does not bug me.... well, as long as it's used as a gerund 😄

                          If someone says "Remember that book that Mark gifted me? I regifted it to Sue" then all bets are off.

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                            Daniel
                            wrote on last edited by Daniel
                            #14

                            How do we feel about "opening up?

                            Celebrity X is "opening up"...

                            Myself-

                            I think it's worn.

                            Prince Harry opens up in new Master Class https://share.google/UYQmEAyroRLvyHFut

                            TBH, I think it'll only fair to balance "open up" with"shut up". 🤷

                            'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                            • AxtremusA
                              AxtremusA
                              Axtremus
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                              #15

                              How about "solvable" instead of "soluble"?
                              Solvability instead of solubility?
                              Or "solve" as a noun (in place of "solution")?

                              Americans usually say "solvable" in the context of discussing a problem. The Indians say "soluble" instead (at least that's what I noticed from watching Indian-produced math-centric YouTube videos).

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                                Daniel
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                                #16

                                How do we feel about "self-care"?

                                I think it should be (and will be) expunged from English.

                                A thought experiment- why isn't there the term "other-care"?

                                No. There's direct care. Direct care is difficult, logistically complicated, often laborious work.

                                I know. It was my mother's NYS job for 20 years to take care of full grown, actually old, TBH, adults, with the minds of developmentally disabled children.

                                Self-care. I think it should (and will).go back to taking care of oneself.

                                'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                                • D Daniel

                                  How do we feel about "self-care"?

                                  I think it should be (and will be) expunged from English.

                                  A thought experiment- why isn't there the term "other-care"?

                                  No. There's direct care. Direct care is difficult, logistically complicated, often laborious work.

                                  I know. It was my mother's NYS job for 20 years to take care of full grown, actually old, TBH, adults, with the minds of developmentally disabled children.

                                  Self-care. I think it should (and will).go back to taking care of oneself.

                                  ShiroKuroS
                                  ShiroKuroS
                                  ShiroKuro
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #17

                                  @Daniel said:

                                  "self-care"

                                  i dislike this expression as well.... I think the concept is ok, but the way it's used is grating... And I read a critique a while pointing out that often, what's recommended as self-care is often not that great for the person...

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                                    Daniel
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                                    #18

                                    I think of it as a frivolous idea, even though AI says there are "5 Pillars'' involved so clearly there are people who take it seriously (I stopped reading after "5 pillars").

                                    'But as they said in one of the later Rocky movies, "Time...it's undefeated.".-- Mik

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                                      Bernard
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                                      #19

                                      I'm fine with self care. Self care means preparing comfort food when you need it. It means saying "no" when necessary Distancing oneself from toxic people. Taking a break from the news when it gets too overwhelming. Shutting off devices. Pampering oneself. Resting when necessary. And on and on and on.

                                      That's how I define it anyway.

                                      The industrial revolution cheapened everything.

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                                      • B Bernard

                                        I'm fine with self care. Self care means preparing comfort food when you need it. It means saying "no" when necessary Distancing oneself from toxic people. Taking a break from the news when it gets too overwhelming. Shutting off devices. Pampering oneself. Resting when necessary. And on and on and on.

                                        That's how I define it anyway.

                                        ShiroKuroS
                                        ShiroKuroS
                                        ShiroKuro
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #20

                                        @Bernard yep, I don't have a problem with those things.

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