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Is Clair de Lune too hard for me?

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  • AndyDA Offline
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    AndyD
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    Looking forward to hearing you learn & play it Shirokuro. I'll struggle along beside you.

    Suddenly I miss my old (literally) piano teacher. She was in her 70's, and would occasionally demonstrate what she wanted by taking the seat and playing, always so beautifully. How, musically, would she have played it...

    I realise there are very good players here and I'd really love to hear any of you (by my count at least 4) who know it, if you can spare 5 minutes for a quick recording please.

    Ventosa viri restabit

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    • AndyDA AndyD

      Looking forward to hearing you learn & play it Shirokuro. I'll struggle along beside you.

      Suddenly I miss my old (literally) piano teacher. She was in her 70's, and would occasionally demonstrate what she wanted by taking the seat and playing, always so beautifully. How, musically, would she have played it...

      I realise there are very good players here and I'd really love to hear any of you (by my count at least 4) who know it, if you can spare 5 minutes for a quick recording please.

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      ShiroKuro
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      @AndyD said:

      Looking forward to hearing you learn & play it Shirokuro.

      thank you!!

      I'll struggle along beside you.

      Yay! It's good to have a partner! (Partner in crime in struggle)

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        @kluurs in measure 26, for the last rolled chord, are you moving that low C into the right hand, and then having the lowest note be the Gb?

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          @kluurs in measure 26, for the last rolled chord, are you moving that low C into the right hand, and then having the lowest note be the Gb?

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          @ShiroKuro said:

          @kluurs in measure 26, for the last rolled chord, are you moving that low C into the right hand, and then having the lowest note be the Gb?

          If I understand you correctly, I play all 4 notes of the bass in the left hand - and the top 3 in the right.

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            #40

            Perfect, that’s what I wanted to know! (There was some direction on the score I didn’t understand. )

            It’s rolled so I will do it that way as well. (First four notes w LH)

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              #41

              After answering I looked at what Bavouzet actually does - and he does it the same (4 bass notes in left hand) - see his video at around 16:34 - though he plays it a bit more straight forwardly than I do. Both Bavouzet and Debussy would probably hate that I introduce a ritard there - but then I'm not playing for a jury.

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              • K kluurs

                After answering I looked at what Bavouzet actually does - and he does it the same (4 bass notes in left hand) - see his video at around 16:34 - though he plays it a bit more straight forwardly than I do. Both Bavouzet and Debussy would probably hate that I introduce a ritard there - but then I'm not playing for a jury.

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                @kluurs said:

                After answering I looked at what Bavouzet actually does - and he does it the same (4 bass notes in left hand) - see his video at around 16:34

                thanks!

                Both Bavouzet and Debussy would probably hate that I introduce a ritard there - but then I'm not playing for a jury.

                😄 Me neither!

                Oh wait, conceivably, I could end up playing this for a jury... 😅

                (It would be my choice though)

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                  #43

                  After playing with this a bit, I played it that way because that's how I learned it. After looking at it a bit more and playing it this afternoon, if I were learning it now, I might do what they recommend as that allows one to hold the important bass note. But then, of course, why didn't Debussy just put the c on the other clef - or some other indication? I'll defer to Real Player.

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                  • AndyDA AndyD

                    @Mark said:

                    You are more than capable of learning it.

                    I have never played it. But, I'm pretty sure I could learn it. I have been so focused on Chopin over the past year that I feel like I should move on to a different composer.

                    What Chopin are you playing?

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                    @AndyD

                    Last October, 2025 I started taking lessons again. Jon's NYC Piano Party was the catalyst that prompted my desire to learn new pieces and to find a qualified teacher. I found the teacher and after about 2 months of me going to his, after my knee replacement surgery, he started coming to my house for lessons. We haven't been back to his place since. I think he likes my piano. 😉

                    I started out with The Valse Op 64, No 2. Then moved on to two Nocturnes, Op 9, No 2, and Op 72, No 1.

                    I have all three of them memorized now. I play through all three at least once daily and since the Op72 No1 is my latest, I concentrate on polishing it more. I am still working on at least 2 or more areas in each piece to attain better accuracy, dynamics, etc.

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                    • M Mark

                      @AndyD

                      Last October, 2025 I started taking lessons again. Jon's NYC Piano Party was the catalyst that prompted my desire to learn new pieces and to find a qualified teacher. I found the teacher and after about 2 months of me going to his, after my knee replacement surgery, he started coming to my house for lessons. We haven't been back to his place since. I think he likes my piano. 😉

                      I started out with The Valse Op 64, No 2. Then moved on to two Nocturnes, Op 9, No 2, and Op 72, No 1.

                      I have all three of them memorized now. I play through all three at least once daily and since the Op72 No1 is my latest, I concentrate on polishing it more. I am still working on at least 2 or more areas in each piece to attain better accuracy, dynamics, etc.

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                      @Mark that’s wonderful!!

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